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NEW DISCOVERY: BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD #23 2nd PRINT NEWSSTAND CURTIS STICKER21137

I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
This book has a UPC stick code affixed on top of the direct market UPC code box on the front cover.

This particular sticker affixed on top of the UPC direct market code box of this particular issue of Beavis And Butthead #23 is a Curtis Perodicals/Distribution sticker.


RockMyAmadeus on the CGC Forums has posted about Curtis newsstand UPC code stickers explaining this in exhaustive detail explaining the only other known book with a Curtis Distribution UPC code affixed to direct market 1st print copies....this was done to fulfill reprint demand at non-direct market stores i.e. the newsstand market. I can't recall the reason offhand, wihout digging up RMA's post on Curtis Printing/Distribution stickered Superman #75's.

I'll post a copy/paste of this thread onto CGC Forms and tag RMA for his feedback, later today, after I put my next 2 books into my Beinfang, doing some last week of prep for submissions to CGC and CBCS next weekend at Baltimore and this post has already taken me dang near a half hour to compose after looking for that bookmarked post by RMA from CGC's board, to no avail so far.... welp.

To cap my TL; DR point, this is not just a UPC code sticker put on top of the UPC code box, as is sometimes seen on books from the late 80's to early 90's....this UPC newsstand code sticker is distinctly a Curtis Printing/Distribution sticker.


I am attaching an example of a Superman #75 2nd print newsstand (Curtis Printing/Distribution sticker) from an eBay listing below, as well as a close up image of the Curtis printing/Dist. sticker on this Beavis and Butthead #23 from its' MCS listing for comparison.



Curtis wikipedia linky:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Circulation

Below is the listing for this B+ B 2nd print newsstand Curtis copy, and a link to view the zoomed in, much larger FC scan.

Mycomicshop seems to have downgraded this book at a 4.0 due to this sticker.

If you look at the FC scan thru the MCS zoom view link below, you'll see it looks to be around a 6.5/7.0 mostly due to spine tics. Corners are sharp without color breaking creases.

I think a conservative grade guess post dry clean & press would be 8.0 - 9.0.

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=59567454

https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_ii/originalimage/7138969.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326117587661







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I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
Here's the #24 error book:

https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/21128/page/1/beavis-and-butt-head-24-manufacturing-error-1-of-1/#4
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What makes this sticker a, "distinctly a Curtis Printing/Distribution sticker"? It just looks like an easily reproduceable sticker that any scammer can place on a book to try to pump and dump.
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I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
Deleted- I will explain how to differentiate Curtis dickered comic books in more detail tonight or tomorrow

For now, I will only say that stickers age like paper.

This sticker has distinct aging marks.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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It really bugs me that both CBCS and CGC look at these Newsstand stickers as a defect.
I have Minions 1 from Titan in Newsstand that I'd love to submit for grading; and I don't see often if at all.
But I know what will happen if I do submit and it will be a graded number I'll be quite unhappy with.

So they just sit and wait and do nothing. I'll figure out what to do with them one day
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Custom UPC labels can be printed and these can be easily faked.




Aging marks won't be present on a well kept copy and that too can also be faked.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PolarisNuclearSS2020
This book has a UPC stick code affixed on top of the direct market UPC code box on the front cover.

This particular sticker affixed on top of the UPC direct market code box of this particular issue of Beavis And Butthead #23 is a Curtis Perodicals/Distribution sticker.


RockMyAmadeus on the CGC Forums has posted about Curtis newsstand UPC code stickers explaining this in exhaustive detail explaining the only other known book with a Curtis Distribution UPC code affixed to direct market 1st print copies....this was done to fulfill reprint demand at non-direct market stores i.e. the newsstand market. I can't recall the reason offhand, wihout digging up RMA's post on Curtis Printing/Distribution stickered Superman #75's.

I'll post a copy/paste of this thread onto CGC Forms and tag RMA for his feedback, later today, after I put my next 2 books into my Beinfang, doing some last week of prep for submissions to CGC and CBCS next weekend at Baltimore and this post has already taken me dang near a half hour to compose after looking for that bookmarked post by RMA from CGC's board, to no avail so far.... welp



Here is the thread. He doesn't say anything about Curtis Distribution UPC codes.

https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/432508-new-upc-variant-for-superman-75-4th-printing/#comments

Regarding the "EN" on the barcode, another member mentioned that he spoke to a seller of one of these books with the "EN" barcode and was told it was purchased at a Hastings which has been known to apply their own barcodes on books.
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I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
Alright, my memory was wrong on this “EN” notation meaning that books with stickered upc codes with “EN”, is indicative that they were Curtis books.

All the Superman 75 2nd ,3rd and 4th print UPC code stickered books have “EN” within the UPC sticker.

I picked that up tonight from going over the few threads about these Sups 75 UPC stickered 2nd,3rd and 4th prints.Quote:
Originally Posted by Optic_Blast
Quote:
Originally Posted by PolarisNuclearSS2020
This book has a UPC stick code affixed on top of the direct market UPC code box on the front cover.

This particular sticker affixed on top of the UPC direct market code box of this particular issue of Beavis And Butthead #23 is a Curtis Perodicals/Distribution sticker.


RockMyAmadeus on the CGC Forums has posted about Curtis newsstand UPC code stickers explaining this in exhaustive detail explaining the only other known book with a Curtis Distribution UPC code affixed to direct market 1st print copies....this was done to fulfill reprint demand at non-direct market stores i.e. the newsstand market. I can't recall the reason offhand, wihout digging up RMA's post on Curtis Printing/Distribution stickered Superman #75's.

I'll post a copy/paste of this thread onto CGC Forms and tag RMA for his feedback, later today, after I put my next 2 books into my Beinfang, doing some last week of prep for submissions to CGC and CBCS next weekend at Baltimore and this post has already taken me dang near a half hour to compose after looking for that bookmarked post by RMA from CGC's board, to no avail so far.... welp



Here is the thread. He doesn't say anything about Curtis Distribution UPC codes.

Regarding the "EN" on the barcode, another member mentioned that he spoke to a seller of one of these books with the "EN" barcode and was told it was purchased at a Hastings which has been known to apply their own barcodes on books.


There’s more than just that one thread on sups 75 UPC code stickered 2nd, 3rd and 4th prints.

A google search turns up 3 threads on these books on CGC’s forum, and 2 threas from the CBCS forum.

I used : “ cgc forums “ followed by RMA’s handle and also tried another search swapping in onlyweaknesskryptonite’s handle.

None of the threads I found in these searches had any valid hits with the addition of “Curtis” in the google search string.

Well, it like this Beavis #23 is a book that was stocked by Hastings, not Curtis.

It’s a novelty book, but it’s NOT a 2nd print UPC newsstand stickered book.

One of the CBCS forums threads in the search results showed a poster stating that no 2nd print newsstands exist of Superman 75, but DC put UPS stickers over the direct market UPC boxes to satisfy newsstand distributors.

Superman 75 was immensely popular at that time, it made the news and was on a cover of Time or Newsweek at he time.

The same obviously can’t be said for Beavis and Butthead 23 😂

This Beavis is a novelty book, nothing more.
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Yeah, it's just a book with a 3rd party vendors upc code slapped over the upc.
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I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Optic_Blast
Custom UPC labels can be printed and these can be easily faked.




Aging marks won't be present on a well kept copy and that too can also be faked.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Optic_Blast
Custom UPC labels can be printed and these can be easily faked.




Aging marks won't be present on a well kept copy and that too can also be faked.


You insinuated I may have had a custom order for a faked UPC sticker and that I faked aging marks on this sticker.

I purchased this book raided at 4.0 with a stock image for $4 from
Mycomicshop and included a note with that order requesting it be held for consignment

This is shown in my mycomicshop shop order history, I have only purchased one copy of this issue from mycomicshop and my mycomicshop sales history shows I have yet to sell a copy of this book.

Furthermore, you followed this up indicating that this book was likely stickered by the chain store Hastings to be sold on their racks.

Why have you not amended this statement where you essentially imply that I am a “scammer” who applied a custom printed UPC sticker to this book?

An apology for the clear insinuation that I am a scammer is in order, not that I expect that from you.
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Huh??? I never insinuated you created the label. I'm saying the label is easy to fake because it's a generic label that can be created by anyone especially if there is any value to that book. No apology given to you because you're acting like you're guilty of something.
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