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| Simple solution to a bubble, don't participate in it. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips Gene Simmons could talk to me from now until Jesus comes and he'll NEVER convince me that KISS is the greatest band of all time. Great gimmick and great marketers, but as musicians they SUCK! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLegoyou'er 100% right is the only way that this crazy autograph business stop. Every writer o artist wants its share of the market, thats Fair, but many other people refuse to participate or put especial rules. McFarlane, Jim Lee, Kirkmang among the people who stop to this practic, put especial Rules or keep doing it for free like Conner, Palmiotti and many others. We need to protect the hobby. |
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| By the wsy Gene Simons and Stsn are great friends | ||
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| I like the first album through Love Gun and then Creatures of the Night. Everything else is whatever. | ||
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| Stan should know when to say no and have pride on his work. Other artist say no when they know "this is not my comic" | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by comicsforme This is very true, and the fact that he doesn't care has lost him much respect in my mind. |
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| I got a book signed and graded by him. I didn't do it to flip but because I wanted something to remind me of my childhood and that iconic voice of his on some of my favorite Saturday morning cartoons. I paid a 100 to get that signature and it was worth every penny to me. |
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| I have 4 comics signed way before CGC was even borned and did not pay a dime and never will. | ||
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| How much of this is really Stan pushing to sign autographs for money or is this his family and handlers just trying to get money before he passes? When I saw him like three years ago they were just shoving stuff in front of him and he didn't even have a chance to look at it, he also did not seem like he was all there. I think at his age he would rather be at home enjoying his family but I wonder how much pressure they put on him to do more shows. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by FrankCastle129you have no idea. i rather not say what i have witnessed due to the spirit of things, but wow just wow. |
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| Stan Lee's signature has been good for me on Ebay. I've been lucky, and almost all of mine have sold for astronomical prices. I have also kept quite a few in my personal stash for a rainy day someday. Even an ASM 300 lol. | ||
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 The bubble continues to grow.  Just saw this. Asking $15k for a Stan Lee Signed Avengers #1 (2014). You could buy the Original Avengers #1 (1963) in like 9.2 condition for that price. With that pricing if Stan Lee Signs an avengers #1 (1963) is it worth 15 million? |
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| Iirc, I think I read somewhere before someone data mined CGC census and like 30-40% of all CGC SS is signed by Stan Lee. :p | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Kcolli For argument's sake, let's say that you want to buy a Michael Jordan signed basketball, which can be purchased for around $1500. You can probably buy a game used ball with no signature for a few hundred. His signature would increase the value 5 fold. Now let's say you want a MJ game used Jersey, again no signature, probably around $10,000. Now let's say you want a MJ signed game used Jersey, probably around $40k to $50k. Now let's say you want the Jersey he was wearing when he made the impossible shot, now you're looking at a few million. The point is, it's not just his signature that determines price, it's what the history behind the item is. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OrbitCityComics You might want to add the rarity of the item in your hypothesis. There is only 1 game worn jersey MJ was wearing when he made the shot. There a large amounts of Stan Lee signed comics on the market. There are more than likely 100's of ASM #1 signed by him. It might bring up the price but it isn't the only one. Now the OA page from AF #15 showing Spidey for the first time signed by Stan might bring some bang for the buck. |
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| Eventually when he passes and people realize how over inflated the market is with his signature the only items that will be worth the money people are asking for will be old school comics that he was either actually involved in or are characters he created. He's the face of marvel but people are charging way too much just because he signed something and soon enough there will be lots of people stuck with crap that they paid way to much for that they can't sell for what they want. |
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| Some of you are blaming sellers for charging X amount. The reality is, if a book doesn't sell, the price gets reduced until it does. If people are willing to pay high prices, then that's what his signature is worth. There won't be too many people selling his signed stuff for less than what they paid for it unless they're desperate. His signed stuff when he passes will skyrocket for a short time. | ||
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| @KingNampa, that seller added three too many zeroes IMO (five, if you count the decimals). | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| Stan Lee is an unique individual. His contribution to the hobby and the breadth of his work from comics to other media is incredible. There is no doubt that Stan Lee is a treasure. With that being said he has not only lived a very long time but been extremely active in attending shows and signing books for a very long time. There is also the fact that Stan will sign DC books or pretty much anything that people put in front of him. While the demand for Stan Lee signed books is high so is the supply. Incredible Hulk 181 has 97 CGC 9.8 graded copies and an additional 7 signed copies. As there is one 9.9 it isn't even the highest graded copy of the book. Despite the large number of CGC 9.8 copies available there were five sales of the book last year with the lowest sale bringing over $11,000 and the highest sale bringing in just under $14,000 for a single copy of the book in this grade. Amazing Fantasy 15 has 2,642 copies graded according to the CGC census. About 600 copies of the book were graded 6.0 or higher. Despite the abundance of copies available in mid to high grades the price range on a CGC 4.0 VG copy of this book from 2016 to present ranges from $13,000 to just over $19,000. While a Hulk 181 in CGC 9.8 will look much better than an Amazing Fantasy in CGC 4.0 and only has about 10% as much supply, the demand for the first appearance of Spider-man has a much greater demand than the first appearance of Wolverine. I would say that this analogy also applies to Stan Lee signed books. Instead of advising you on whether or not to buy a book signed by Stan or spending time and money to get a book signed my only suggestion would be that if you want a book signed by Stan try to make it a book that he made a meaningful impact on. I would much rather get a Stan Lee signature on a silver age Avengers book like Avengers # 4 than a copy of Batman Adventures # 12. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Archie10cent I've got a 1946 1st issue MM story by Stan (currently for sale), if it does not sell by the next time I go to a convention where Stan is signing, I'll cut open a window on the slab (so he doesn't ruin the fkng thing fisting it) and get a signature on it. I know it will be a value for that book. You are right, there ARE some comics worth getting his sig on that will hold or increase value Just for shits maybe I'll bring a brand new rebirth DC book and see if I can get him to write "I did this -SL) on it  Maybe he's blind and senile? That's the only reason I can think of that he would be signing some of the stuff we've seen... |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Just like the Geico commercial would say "If you're Stan Lee you sign books, that's what you do". Stan Lee likes signing books for fans. He is like the honey badger, he doesn't give f*** what book it is. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Revelations Sucker born every minute. I don't believe people who actually know the market are paying those prices. Rule one in the art market, never buy anything the day after the artist dies. As a side note: does anyone else find it a tad bit morbid that we're speculating on Stan's death? |
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@shrewbeer You are going to cut a window into the slab? With the book inside? Please video this amazing show for us.  |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by OrbitCityComics Dude is more than 90 years old. We are lucky he is alive and well enough to still appear at shows. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego haha yes I'm gonna take a wheel grinder to it with the book inside No really, I would crack it, cut it, tape the edges of the window and put the book back in taped closed with a mylar flap over said hole. He can mangle on that all he wants and wont degrade the book. |
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 In all seriousness though, @Jesse_O is correct. He is the Elvis of our world and will be missed when he's gone. Yes, he's overloading us with himself at shows, but we will miss that when he is no longer with us. I mean, he is Stan freakin' Lee! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer I cracked my AF15 and ASM1 that were restored for Stan to sign at Planet ComiCon in KC last May. Those things were triple boarded, sealed in a window cut 2.0 mylar. Thankfully, they were not "Stan-handled" and came back with consistent grading. |
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| @shrewbeer I would suggest just getting some 4mil Mylar bags and fullbacks to make your window bags. 4mil has very sturdy edges when used with fullbacks. | ||
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