CGC loses lawsuit21015
 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad That was a rights issue related to the Human Torch...not the fear that kids would light themselves on fire. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Ahhhh...you are correct. I've believed the urban myth all these years. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Johnny Storm's Nightmare!  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by figment Well played. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLadwho the hell left rocket fuel laying around? That shit ain’t cheap. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash That's a fair question to ask. |
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| Seems like it's just the nature of a small industry A small group of people creating an industry then playing musical chairs within the industry while holding the keys to the castle to essentially keep others out or at least using your connections to discredit others It's all very incestuous BUT...on the bright side...CGC will have no blow back because of this despite being yet another example added to the pile of what appears to be a systematic (either through carelessness or malice) misplacement of trust the customer base lends to them so nothing will really change....long live CGC...sigh..... |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| Seems strange that the crux of CGC's defense is that Matt Nelson doesn't speak for them and they should not be held liable for an employee's defamatory actions and in the midst of the trial, CGC proceeded to promote Matt to company President and Head grader. I've read the other chat boards from @Poka's link and I'm curious if Steve testified as an expert witness during the trial. I'm looking forward to a more thorough article in the future. |
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| We have a fun phase in our department at work. Stupid or Lying When something goes wrong with our own stuff or from other departments it boils down to - Stupid or Lying Stupid maybe you can forgive...as long as you don't make the same stupid mistake over and over i.e. X project went over budget were we stupid because we missed taking something into consideration? Or were we lying because someone damned well knew the real bottle neck was something else? Lets play a game shall we??? Newton Rings aren't a problem - Stupid or Lying Creep Engine doesn't exist - Stupid or Lying 9.9 and 10.0 pre-grades aren't just a gimmick - Stupid or Lying We have multiple eyes grade and review books - Stupid or Lying Our cases are tamper evident - Stupid or Lying Don't know about you but I come up with Lying over and over Feel free to add your own!!! |
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Interesting thread; bonuses at CGC may be on the skimpy side this year.  |
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| Aaaaaannnnd...I just got banned from the CGC boards for a week, for sharing the article. They left up my thread (for now) in the Restoration & Grading Forum, where I posted about the different leaf casting and color touch techniques, but didn't mention the lawsuit, or the names of who did the work. The name "Myers" has been added to their profanity filter. I guess they have 10,000,000 reasons to be upset. |
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| @MatterEaterLad I wouldn't worry about too much lol that place is drab and cringe. I have to stop hanging out with my kids lol |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad lol...should be the home page banner for CBCS...maybe make banners to put up at conventions where CGC is present...like..hey CGC actively under graded and tried to shut down a restoration service..if you want unbiased grades use CBCS! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLadnice |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad Been there and done that....wear it like a badge of honor. |
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| I know there are some dealers, who are also long-time boardies, mentioned in the lawsuit, because they carried the water for CGC, pushing their narrative. I wonder what they're thinking at the moment? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad lol...probably thinking they are lucky to not have also been named in the suit! |
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| I'm gonna sue them for holding my book hostage | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad If they were named in the suit and found liable for damages, I would expect them to sue CGC for recovery of those damages. Same for Heritage and whatever the settlement they paid was. They were third parties acting on the information received from a trusted source, CGC. |
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| [lol...should be the home page banner for CBCS...maybe make banners to put up at conventions where CGC is present...like..hey CGC actively under graded and tried to shut down a restoration service..if you want unbiased grades use CBCS! Every time I'm at a convention or comic book shop, I always ask if they have any CBCS slabs. Most dealers/owners tell me they don't have any here or they only have CGC slabs. I also tell them I'm not a CGC fan and why. They listen but mostly don't care. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| @Rafel Cbcs still doesn't have memberships and their customer service is also unresponsive. I don't know about dealer discounts either. It seems as if they don't want to gain any more business. This still pops up on the homepage of a reputable comic presser. Cbcs has plenty of their own problems that we tend to overlook because of how awful CGC is.  |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Neither of these 2 companies (CBCS or CGC) will be on Forbes Best for a well oiled business machine. That's for shat sure. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Probably true, but I still trust CBCS more than I would ever trust CGC. So far, In the ten years that I've been submitting to CBCS, they've damaged (1) comic book, mislabeled slabs about slabs and sent me slabs that were not mine (Those I've sent back so they could be returned to rightful owner), CBCS has always made things right by me. I've seen CGC slabs, wondered why high grades on books with visible errors, all the controversy and now this lawsuit. How do they stay in business. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders In all fairness, the same disclaimer could be posted about the cgc. They have "misplaced" there fair share of books as well. If blame were butter, they'd all be greasy. It's easy to kick one dog to the curb when there's another one waiting in the wings. Plus, for some people, it can get personal. |
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| We should start our own grading company! CGCBCS... Our motto is " we don't know, we just work here" |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders WOW! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rafel Every time I'm at a convention or comic book shop, I always ask if they have any CBCS slabs. Most dealers/owners tell me they don't have any here or they only have CGC slabs. I also tell them I'm not a CGC fan and why. They listen but mostly don't care. By my--somewhat limited--experience, discussions like this have resulted in something similar. |
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| I'm almost certain my local shop is a cbcs facilitator. I'll have to ask next time I'm in. I remember one guy I used to work with was a volunteer there and he talked about cbcs all the time. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I think you are on to something, and the wording should be magnanimous. The message should be for everyone and should mention the lawsuit and how CGC's actions were stifling to restoration innovation and best practices. It should end with CBCS offering to re-evaluate and regrade books from that restoration company at no charge. Contrasting CBCS as an ally and asset to the industry, as opposed to the self-serving actions of CGC. If they did this, they should also consider reaching out to the restoration company and let them know so they can tell their customers. Maybe even offer to put the name of the company on the label in the restoration details, since this is a unique situation. |
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