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I like how they are doing their own thing w/the labels.


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Curious about their pricing. I wonder if they'll try and undercut competitors or just blend right in.
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@GAC I would most definitely.
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So is that book a Silver Surfer# 1 or is it Kith # 3 or something else?
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So is that book a Silver Surfer# 1 or is it Kith # 3 or something else?


The label says Keth #3, silver Surfer variant. So I would assume that's what it is. But I don't know anything about it other than what it says.
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So is that book a Silver Surfer# 1 or is it Kith # 3 or something else?


The label says Keth #3, silver Surfer variant. So I would assume that's what it is. But I don't know anything about it other than what it says.


It's part of a co-branding with Kith and ASICS. The graded book also comes with a pair of limited edition shoes. I don't understand what is the point at all.

https://kith.com/blogs/kith/marvel-kith-for-asics-gel-lyte-iii-remastered
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Am I missing something? Is there a grade on that book?

Slabs look decent, but if the CGC folks had a problem with the old CBCS labels, I can only imagine the buthurt these labels will set off (I personally think they look clean and legible...but kinda plain).
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Am I missing something? Is there a grade on that book?

Slabs look decent, but if the CGC folks had a problem with the old CBCS labels, I can only imagine the buthurt these labels will set off (I personally think they look clean and legible...but kinda plain).


Believe those are one of a kind so designated AU instead of a grade
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Someone on eBay is selling one of these prototypes.

Ckick here to See the Auction.


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I saw them in person as well, I do have to admit they look better in person. I agree the weight felt a bit heavier than cha or cbcs but I didn’t mind it as the assembly was pretty solid.

Not sure how true it is because I overheard it, but heard discussions of argon. Again not sure if this is part of the process or just people talking.
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"There, their, they're." GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Hcanes Did you happen to notice the dimensions? Are the slabs the same size as cbcs or cgc?
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@GAC Unfortunately I didn’t bother to ask because I was only at the con for Thursday and wanted to speed through the hall identifying places I wanted to come back to with my short time.

They looked the part. Again the only difference I noticed was the weight. Hopefully someone at the con can provide more recon.

I’d have to think both the CGC and CBCS crews stopped to check the competition.
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What does the Argon mean??
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Argon is a gas. It’s used in the glazing industry with insulated glass units (what most new high rise construction uses) to help with thermal insulation.
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I was at SDCC and got to check out the PSA cases. I’m not a fan. They’re too heavy and I suspect that the “frosted” plastic bit has something to do with that. They’re skinnier than a CBCS or CGC slab but otherwise have the same dimensions. Someone else also mentioned that the slabs look like they’re one piece, and I agree with that. No gaps or openings on the sides anywhere;
It’s like looking at an iPhone. The issue with that though is that there doesn’t appear to be any way for the comic to off-gas. It’s like one solid piece of plastic with the comic just PRESSED in there.


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@Hcanes Did you happen to notice the dimensions? Are the slabs the same size as cbcs or cgc?


There are frames of reference. The books. Based on that, they are noticeably wider. At least the moderns.
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I was at SDCC and got to check out the PSA cases. I’m not a fan. They’re too heavy and I suspect that the “frosted” plastic bit has something to do with that. They’re skinnier than a CBCS or CGC slab but otherwise have the same dimensions. Someone else also mentioned that the slabs look like they’re one piece, and I agree with that. No gaps or openings on the sides anywhere;
It’s like looking at an iPhone. The issue with that though is that there doesn’t appear to be any way for the comic to off-gas. It’s like one solid piece of plastic with the comic just PRESSED in there.




Thanks!

Good to know!

No ventilation to allow off gassing is an issue.

I think I might like a thinner but heavier slab. I prefer a substantive slab...CBCS is a tank and I like that.

Happy to read the length and width dimensions are the same as CBCS and CGC....that would be an automatic deal breaker for a lot of collectors.I think.
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If the book is just sandwiched in there between two pieces of plastic, then isn't that the same thing that created the creep engine issues with the cgc?
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@Hcanes thanks! I asked because where I wor, er deal with it. We take to CT scan .
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If the book is just sandwiched in there between two pieces of plastic, then isn't that the same thing that created the creep engine issues with the cgc?


Yes, but I think the creep engine also requires a flexible slab....if this slab is as rigid as the cbcs slab then I think that can overcome the "accordion" squeeze creating the creep engine....just a thought.
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I was at SDCC and got to check out the PSA cases. I’m not a fan. They’re too heavy and I suspect that the “frosted” plastic bit has something to do with that. They’re skinnier than a CBCS or CGC slab but otherwise have the same dimensions. Someone else also mentioned that the slabs look like they’re one piece, and I agree with that. No gaps or openings on the sides anywhere;
It’s like looking at an iPhone. The issue with that though is that there doesn’t appear to be any way for the comic to off-gas. It’s like one solid piece of plastic with the comic just PRESSED in there.




Happy to read the length and width dimensions are the same as CBCS and CGC....that would be an automatic deal breaker for a lot of collectors.I think.


Interesting re: dimensions. I thought PSA’s case was certainly wider. Then I saw these posts and thought, optical illusion?

So I took one of the published examples (IH181) and compared it to a CGC case. Cropped the image to match the reference areas and did that two ways. First, from top edge of books. Second, to account for miscuts, from the top of the marvel banner. Measured to below Wolverine’s left thumb. Measured width to the outer case edge.

In both measurements, the PSA case had a significantly wider ratio, confirming that the case is wider than the CGC case.

So does that mean production cases are different?
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I think they should flip the info on the label since you read left to right.
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I was at SDCC and got to check out the PSA cases. I’m not a fan. They’re too heavy and I suspect that the “frosted” plastic bit has something to do with that. They’re skinnier than a CBCS or CGC slab but otherwise have the same dimensions. Someone else also mentioned that the slabs look like they’re one piece, and I agree with that. No gaps or openings on the sides anywhere;
It’s like looking at an iPhone. The issue with that though is that there doesn’t appear to be any way for the comic to off-gas. It’s like one solid piece of plastic with the comic just PRESSED in there.




Happy to read the length and width dimensions are the same as CBCS and CGC....that would be an automatic deal breaker for a lot of collectors.I think.


Interesting re: dimensions. I thought PSA’s case was certainly wider. Then I saw these posts and thought, optical illusion?

So I took one of the published examples (IH181) and compared it to a CGC case. Cropped the image to match the reference areas and did that two ways. First, from top edge of books. Second, to account for miscuts, from the top of the marvel banner. Measured to below Wolverine’s left thumb. Measured width to the outer case edge.

In both measurements, the PSA case had a significantly wider ratio, confirming that the case is wider than the CGC case.

So does that mean production cases are different?


When I picked them up, I was eyeballing the dimensions so it is extremely possible that they actually have different dimensions than a CGC slab. If they’re different though it’s not by much. The biggest difference again seems to be the weight. I honestly wouldn’t want to lift even a short box of these.
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The competition is gonna be between CBCs and PSA. Cgc seems to be showing themselves out.
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I was at SDCC and got to check out the PSA cases. I’m not a fan. They’re too heavy and I suspect that the “frosted” plastic bit has something to do with that. They’re skinnier than a CBCS or CGC slab but otherwise have the same dimensions. Someone else also mentioned that the slabs look like they’re one piece, and I agree with that. No gaps or openings on the sides anywhere;
It’s like looking at an iPhone. The issue with that though is that there doesn’t appear to be any way for the comic to off-gas. It’s like one solid piece of plastic with the comic just PRESSED in there.




Happy to read the length and width dimensions are the same as CBCS and CGC....that would be an automatic deal breaker for a lot of collectors.I think.


Interesting re: dimensions. I thought PSA’s case was certainly wider. Then I saw these posts and thought, optical illusion?

So I took one of the published examples (IH181) and compared it to a CGC case. Cropped the image to match the reference areas and did that two ways. First, from top edge of books. Second, to account for miscuts, from the top of the marvel banner. Measured to below Wolverine’s left thumb. Measured width to the outer case edge.

In both measurements, the PSA case had a significantly wider ratio, confirming that the case is wider than the CGC case.

So does that mean production cases are different?


When I picked them up, I was eyeballing the dimensions so it is extremely possible that they actually have different dimensions than a CGC slab. If they’re different though it’s not by much. The biggest difference again seems to be the weight. I honestly wouldn’t want to lift even a short box of these.


Okay - makes more sense. I was surprised by the same dimensions comment as I was making my judgment based off the reference scale of the books… and the PSA cases looked significantly wider. Running the numbers on aspect ratios suggest a difference of >15%… means stacking or organizing them with existing collections will be…sub-optimal.
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I do like the inner well's rounded corners. That looks sharp
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What’s concerning to me is that there didn’t appear to be any inner plastic “sleeve” or whatever it is that it’s called. Yes there’s a well, but it appears the comic is just sitting in that well with nothing else. The only thing that seems to prevent the comic from sliding around and banging into the sides of the well is the fact that the comic is held like a vice in there
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What’s concerning to me is that there didn’t appear to be any inner plastic “sleeve” or whatever it is that it’s called. Yes there’s a well, but it appears the comic is just sitting in that well with nothing else. The only thing that seems to prevent the comic from sliding around and banging into the sides of the well is the fact that the comic is held like a vice in there

Didn't the cgc already try something of this nature that was a miserable failure?
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What’s concerning to me is that there didn’t appear to be any inner plastic “sleeve” or whatever it is that it’s called. Yes there’s a well, but it appears the comic is just sitting in that well with nothing else. The only thing that seems to prevent the comic from sliding around and banging into the sides of the well is the fact that the comic is held like a vice in there

Didn't the cgc already try something of this nature that was a miserable failure?


They did; and it blew up epically.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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Imagine a world where packaging engineering entered into any new designs.
I can almost see it now.

And then testing the new design or process before releasing it.
I'm seeing the vision come to me ... slowly... slowly.

Or

Release the design, let it fail, have people complain, hide it and delete forum threads. And then secretly fix it and claim nothing was ever wrong.

Hmmmm.... such a great process over there. Worthy of gold medal
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