Player 3 has entered the chat. PSA to grade comics.20986
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Not using PSA myself either right away until I see 1. Other books/slabs2. Price point and 3. Label info. I ran out and used EGS and well.... |
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 No rust here...
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| The card collectors that have been using PSA for years are probably ecstatic right now. Especially the poor folks with OCD. Now they can have their card and comic collection match. Time will reveal how accurate their grader or graders and finalizer is. They also better have a super holder. No newton rings or creaky slabs. With their experience and financial strength, they will do just fine with their small slice of pie. |
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| @James42 I agree with you 100%. I started watching Swagglehaus when he first started. He was all about raw books, no slabs. Now he acts like he is the go-to guy for anything comic related. With his style he is difficult to watch and after he published his own book he became more difficult. ComicTom is another one of those YouTubers I tried and I just couldn't take his style. I did Reggie for a while until he basically said CBCS was crap and no one should use them. I used to watch Minthunter because he had some interesting information and he at least gave CBCS some credit for being a better company. When he lost his job and became a full time seller, his objectivism went out the window. He actually said the other day that all the talk about CGC's 9.9's is false information, that CGC hasn't been giving out more 9.9's. The one YouTube cannel I watch regularly is Bronze and Modern Gods. The shows are basically about a couple guys sitting around taking comics. They have Show and Tell, the 25 Year Rule (They highlight a book from 25 years ago), the Old Fart Rule, (They highlight a book from 40 years ago), Hot Book of the week, Viewer mail and on Thursday's live stream, they invite subscribers to join them with Show and Tell. They are all about the hobby, not what they think you should buy. I also am a subscriber and enjoy watching the craziness that can ensue on their show. |
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 Please continue to ignore anything I post.
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Oh lordy, save me from the comic book influencers. Girly girl and wham bam thank you comic fam and the others. All trying to be popular in a hobby they entered five minutes ago. But not fun and games when some were called out buying multiple copies of a after market limited con exclusive so they can corner the market to flip like they just invented flipping on Why not?. During acegate! There's a cure for that. UNSUBSCRIBE! |
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 I'll probably wake up constipated.
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| Competition is good for the hobby as long as they are a healthy competition. CGC has not been healthy for the hobby for some time. We'll see what PSA has to offer. | ||
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| If rumour is right then the head grader will be a person with a less than stellar reputation | ||
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 I'm a McNugget guzzler.
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| Jesus, I have some reading to do..... | ||
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by poka Is it the guy from Hero Restoration? Or Mark Wilson? |
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 "There, their, they're."
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by poka Hopes now dashed of a legit competitor in the grading market.  |
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 Beaten by boat oars
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Danny Dupcak? | ||
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Remind me who Mark Wilson is. Didn't he have something to do with restored books? |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Hopes are like ocean waves. They ride high for a few fleeting moments and then crash unabashedly upon the shore fading into nothingness as they retreat back into the black. |
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 being an ass and being a clown are two very different things.
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| The party is over already? | ||
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being an ass and being a clown are two very different things.
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"There, their, they're."
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders over at cgc they're saying this...  |
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 I blame the forum gremlins.
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| My favorite comic book influencer is that Borock guy, but the last thing he needs is the crap that goes with a podcast or video channel. | ||
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC This guy looks like Ben Affleck's coattails riding cousin. For the record, I don't know any of his relatives but that is the vibe he gives me. |
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| Who are the experts? What do they know about restoration? What is their standing in our community? What are the prices/tiers? I think it was a lack luster 1st announcement.... They called me for advice and I had a 1 hour+ zoom call with them and gave them plenty of advice for free. Then I told them, that was free because I feel the need for a 3rd true grading service and I would be happy to help them, but time is money for me. I said it would be a very nominal fee, but the lady I spoke to was very arrogant at the end of the meeting and said that she did not need me and could do it herself. Pretty dumb if ya ask me. Oh, well. I hope that they do well for our amazing hobby. Just not sure the will. Time will tell.... |
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by sborock_ComicLink Amen Godfather!! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BelarakThat is one ugly label. That alone would keep me from submitting to them. |
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 I like bean sprouts.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Silversorrow I don't mind the label. Clarity of information is more important to me than cosmetics. I am wondering how they plan to differentiate between signed/unsigned, restored/unrestored/conserved, etc. But that slab looks quite a bit larger than what collectors are used to. That alone could sink this for a lot of people. At the outset, they are going to need to get collectors who already are into graded books to buy in. I don't think there are many who will submit test books if the returned product won't fit in existing storage (and mailers, and bags, and so on). |
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Quote:Originally Posted by James42 In agreement. First and foremost the grading is going to have pass the muster. If PSA can prove they can grade, detect restoration and authenticate books of all eras (including pedigrees) then that's a huge accomplishment and a great contribution of service. Hopefully they'll hire people with good reputations in our hobby...with proven track records....true, long time hobby friendly collectors and dealers. Their cases/slabs should conform to current standardize dimensions...like you said, if they're bigger, more cumbersome...that'll be an uphill battle for them to gain traction in the market. All cosmetics is open to opinion but I do believe they'd be wise to adopt (at least) the universal blue and signature yellow labels in some capacity. Those colors should appear somewhere if not the entire label. If they can do this, then we'll have something. |
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No rust here...
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Quote:Originally Posted by sborock_ComicLink Hey Steve, the woman obviously didn't appreciate your decades long in-depth wealth of knowledge and experience that you have to offer. Her arrogance is more like ignorance thinking she didn't need to pick your brain. Even if she knew everything you know about comics, it is wise to consult with "The Guru". But you know stupid is as stupid does..... |
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being an ass and being a clown are two very different things.
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| Thought they would have changed the name. | ||
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| I HATE PSA... They just hire creeps that like to make ya take off yer shoes, so they can sniff'em, walk ya through a body scanner to see what yer "packing" and cop-a-feel when they run their hands all over ya... Then they make ya late for yer flight... *sarcasm off* Seriously though, competion is good. Maybe this will knock the stupid zombie way of thinking that "CGC sells for more" outta the waters. I'll give'em a try on a few comics for sure. Maybe... I guess... I dont like arrogant people with a know it all attitude like with what Borock said about the meeting they went through. |
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Someone on the CGC Boards proposed this  |
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 I haven't aired it out. It's part of the provenance.
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Quote:Originally Posted by sborock_ComicLink  |
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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| For a company that has been around since 1991 and is considered to be the largest card grading company in the world, I have to say that I am not impressed. I donât know who they talked to (besides Borock - very briefly according to Steve, and a YouTube influencer), but it doesnât seem like they put a whole lot of research and effort into this. I can see wanting to keep a similar label as their cards, but they couldnât come up with something more appealing than that?! As mentioned, the dimensions seem wrong, so their slabs wonât fit in standard sleeves or storage boxes. Are they going to make and sell those too for their own product? And why would you use a picture of an actual comic, but put false information on the label? Did their âexpertsâ not know anything about Newsstand editions? Seems like a very amateurish mistake that doesnât exactly fill you with confidence in their ability to get things right. If they have as deep pockets as everyone is saying, then they will go ahead and try to be a major player in the comic and magazine grading market. I would expect growing pains, delays, and mistakes, but ultimately they will be judged by the prices the books in their slabs sell for. CGC has been grading comics since 2000, and they are still making mistakes. But because they were first, and have put so many books in slabs over that time period, they are practically bulletproof. Too many collectors, dealers, and spectators are too invested at this point in time that I donât ever see them disappearing, or even giving up the #1 spot. CBCS has had many chances over the last few years to really cut into CGCâs share of the market, but unfortunately, even with a superior slab and probably more consistent grading, they remain a distant #2 (and seem to be okay with that). I thought Beckett would have really made a push when they purchased CBCS, but it seemed more like a whimper than a bang. No noticeable increase in advertising, no noticeable increase in special deals or sales, mostly business as usual (they did do away with memberships, changed the tiers, and raised prices on grading, pressing, and shipping plus insurance). Competition is good for business. The presence of CBCS has at least put a little pressure on CGC. I wonder how they would have reacted to their numerous âissuesâ if there was no competition? Maybe PSA will put pressure on both of them to improve. I wonât even talk about PGX (formerly PGA World - anyone remember that label), because I donât know anyone that would use them. The fact that they, and companies like EGS even exist, tells you that people will try out PSA. Thereâs definitely room for three comic grading companies. PSA has, or is about to, throw their hat in the ring. The question that we should be asking on this forum is - will CBCS remain content with being #2, or will they be okay if they become #3? Time will tell. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo I wouldn't be okay with humber 2. Cbcs just needs to keep doing what they're doing and the customers will come to them. That's how I made it here. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sborock_ComicLink Whatever the work they have put into this venture, whatever the understanding of the market or established product, whatever their own vision is: this person being so dismissive of Steve and his standing is unacceptable. And insane! |
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