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The comic grade findings form at the bottom could be useful but seems like it would better suited to just be posted online with the grading notes. Otherwise, it looks totally amateur, but a step up from Midwest Comic Grading. Both are probably more accurate than the Mr. Magoos that CGC employs.
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Watching the swagglehaus video now and honestly; it doesn't look that bad.

I subscribed to his channel when he first started and thought I've been collecting comic books longer then he has been alive so I unsubscribed.

I think the demographic for his videos are the new collectors around his age
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The comic grade findings form at the bottom could be useful but seems like it would better suited to just be posted online with the grading notes. Otherwise, it looks totally amateur, but a step up from Midwest Comic Grading. Both are probably more accurate than the Mr. Magoos that CGC employs.


I think the intention is good...the execution, not so much......kinda like cgc...poor execution.
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Watching the swagglehaus video now and honestly; it doesn't look that bad.

I subscribed to his channel when he first started and thought I've been collecting comic books longer then he has been alive so I unsubscribed.

I think the demographic for his videos are the new collectors around his age


Totally agree except I'd swap out collector and replace it with speculator/9.8 chaser/investor or some other adjective like that.
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The comic grade findings form at the bottom could be useful but seems like it would better suited to just be posted online with the grading notes. Otherwise, it looks totally amateur, but a step up from Midwest Comic Grading. Both are probably more accurate than the Mr. Magoos that CGC employs.


I think the intention is good...the execution, not so much......kinda like cgc...poor execution.


At least I suppose they are trying something in Canada.
Grading companies from outside the U.S that do their own thing and create a local market good for them.

But with that said this looks very convoluted to me.
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@Sigur_Ros honestly no. When I started collecting again 8 years ago; it's was cbxs, cgc and pgx. That's all I knew about
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The comic grade findings form at the bottom could be useful but seems like it would better suited to just be posted online with the grading notes. Otherwise, it looks totally amateur, but a step up from Midwest Comic Grading. Both are probably more accurate than the Mr. Magoos that CGC employs.


I think the intention is good...the execution, not so much......kinda like cgc...poor execution.


At least I suppose they are trying something in Canada.
Grading companies from outside the U.S that do their own thing and create a local market good for them.

But with that said this looks very convoluted to me.


I applaud the attempt and industrious effort but I don't see that catching on. It is large in scale, not practical and not pretty in my opinion. Happy to see someone in Canada getting into the grading game but personally, I don't see a future in that thing.
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Watching the swagglehaus video now and honestly; it doesn't look that bad.


It's impressive that he could make a 12 minute video out of a 30 second read. He sure does love to talk about nothing. Maybe he'd get along with @Studley_Dudley's sister.




Shit youtube channel.....cgc apologist.


When they lowered the prices for members he went fan girl mode to the tenth power.
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Watching the swagglehaus video now and honestly; it doesn't look that bad.


It's impressive that he could make a 12 minute video out of a 30 second read. He sure does love to talk about nothing. Maybe he'd get along with @Studley_Dudley's sister.




Shit youtube channel.....cgc apologist.


When they lowered the prices for members he went fan girl mode to the tenth power.


I saw that....they lowered their prices after all the issues they were are having including the lawsuits with former employees.....this guy thought lowering their prices was a complete redemption of CGCs bullish!t...crazy.
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Some people like to be shills and/or ignorant.
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I have two books at cgc now ( not egs books and I had unused membership credits) I'm waiting to see what condition they arrive in.
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@Sigur_Ros honestly no. When I started collecting again 8 years ago; it's was cbxs, cgc and pgx. That's all I knew about

Ok.
Yea, PSA is to cards what CGC is to comics. They're very reputable. Not a PGX or EGS.

Edit: not a slam against CBCS. I just mean CGC has been around longer. "The standard". 🙄
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@Sigur_Ros honestly no. When I started collecting again 8 years ago; it's was cbxs, cgc and pgx. That's all I knew about

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Yea, PSA is to cards what CGC is to comics. They're very reputable. Not a PGX or EGS.


Correct. I own a handful of graded sports and trading cards. PSA and BGS are the two standards, with some very odd industry sub-specialties. Odd, because most of the process should be identical. BGS premium for MTG (Magic the Gathering) and PSA for Pokemon. BGS and PSA are pretty much equivalent in sports cards. They have some different distributions on the extremes - a BGS 10 is far scarcer than a PSA 10, etc.

As always, lots of online partisan preferences but most (in my opinion) is noise - they are both reputable. I think PSA is entering at an interesting time. CGC has some issues, CBCS too. The market has softened considerably and may continue to until we see interest rates fall and the next up-cycle starts. We may need to first pass through a true recession so it will be telling how the (now 3) players conduct themselves.

I don’t consider egs and other minor startups as competitors. PSA has an established name so is different and could shake things up.
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Are they SoCal?

I liked your question... I guess.
I think half the likes I give are when my thumb taps the screen to scroll.


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@Sigur_Ros honestly no. When I started collecting again 8 years ago; it's was cbxs, cgc and pgx. That's all I knew about

Ok.
Yea, PSA is to cards what CGC is to comics. They're very reputable. Not a PGX or EGS.

Edit: not a slam against CBCS. I just mean CGC has been around longer. "The standard". 🙄


I get ya, cgc is considered " the standard" . This could be pretty big then; finally, a real competitor.
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They've allowed a thread on the CGC Boards (for now). In the meantime...

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@Sigur_Ros honestly no. When I started collecting again 8 years ago; it's was cbxs, cgc and pgx. That's all I knew about

Ok.
Yea, PSA is to cards what CGC is to comics. They're very reputable. Not a PGX or EGS.

Edit: not a slam against CBCS. I just mean CGC has been around longer. "The standard". 🙄


I get ya, cgc is considered " the standard" . This could be pretty big then; finally, a real competitor.

Are you saying CBCS isn't a real competitor?
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@Sigur_Ros honestly no. When I started collecting again 8 years ago; it's was cbxs, cgc and pgx. That's all I knew about

Ok.
Yea, PSA is to cards what CGC is to comics. They're very reputable. Not a PGX or EGS.

Edit: not a slam against CBCS. I just mean CGC has been around longer. "The standard". 🙄


I get ya, cgc is considered " the standard" . This could be pretty big then; finally, a real competitor.

Are you saying CBCS isn't a real competitor?


Absolutely not!! Lol maybe I should have worded that different.

Ahem, I'm saying that it's been the the big two plus pgx. There is EGS but I think they'll gwt left out of the conversation soon enough. There's been plenty said about a real third option; maybe it's them. I have been wrong before though.
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Watching the swagglehaus video now and honestly; it doesn't look that bad.

I subscribed to his channel when he first started and thought I've been collecting comic books longer then he has been alive so I unsubscribed.

I think the demographic for his videos are the new collectors around his age


Totally agree except I'd swap out collector and replace it with speculator/9.8 chaser/investor or some other adjective like that.


I unsubscribed from him after he posted a video last basically was "fomo and speculative buying are what's driving up values in books that have no reason to be so high. This is bad long term, don't go broke chasing the trends!"

Then in the end...

"now here's the top 10 new releases and covers! Also 5 books picking up steam on the market, is this the next (insert pump/dump book)?
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Watching the swagglehaus video now and honestly; it doesn't look that bad.

I subscribed to his channel when he first started and thought I've been collecting comic books longer then he has been alive so I unsubscribed.

I think the demographic for his videos are the new collectors around his age


Totally agree except I'd swap out collector and replace it with speculator/9.8 chaser/investor or some other adjective like that.


I unsubscribed from him after he posted a video last basically was "fomo and speculative buying are what's driving up values in books that have no reason to be so high. This is bad long term, don't go broke chasing the trends!"

Then in the end...

"now here's the top 10 new releases and covers! Also 5 books picking up steam on the market, is this the next (insert pump/dump book)?


That drive me damn bananas!!! I don't buy into the hype anymore. Of its something I want, ill buy it.
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My thoughts after perusing this thread and the linked information:

1. I'm okay with more competition in the space. I don't think I will rush out and send any books to PSA, as I am currently happy with CBCS' service and price. That might change once we actually have finalized information on introductory pricing and services. The slab has to be the same size as CBCS and CGC, however, as I am not changing my storage for a start-up grader.

2. Swagglehaus is one of those YouTubers who I do not subscribe to, but I will watch a video if the subject matter is interesting. Others in this category include Comic Tom, Mint Hunter, and Automatic Comics. I am subscribed to Regie Collects, even though he has not posted a video in ages. I'm not interested in the financial aspect of comics (other than not wanting to pay more than I have to), so I watch them mostly because it's so much not why I am into comics. Like going to a freak sideshow.

3. The only YouTube channel I watch regularly and suggest to everyone is Bronze and Modern Gods. The $3/month membership is worth every penny. It's more like hanging out at a LCS talking about comics than any other channel I know on YouTube.
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This seems a little weird.
From their website:

CPS Pedigree Grading
Have your comic professionally graded and display ready, but still accessible. Your comic can be opened and still enjoyed, and will display perfectly in an 11×17 frame along with grading notes.


And why not get all your indie comics a grade of 10. Guaranteed. I don't know what their definition of Pedigree is, but I don't think it is the same as the accepted norm. Hmmm..


indie publishers can have access to the same collectibles that the big three get: professionally graded and encapsulated copies of their comic books, complete with a special pedigree label.

The best part: with our service, we guarantee you 5 perfect copies graded at 10.0 – yes, guaranteed perfect 10s.
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Not using PSA myself either right away until I see 1. Other books/slabs2. Price point and 3. Label info.

I ran out and used EGS and well....
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
The card collectors that have been using PSA for years are probably ecstatic right now.
Especially the poor folks with OCD. Now they can have their card and comic collection match.
Time will reveal how accurate their grader or graders and finalizer is.
They also better have a super holder. No newton rings or creaky slabs.
With their experience and financial strength, they will do just fine with their small slice of pie.
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@James42 I agree with you 100%.

I started watching Swagglehaus when he first started. He was all about raw books, no slabs. Now he acts like he is the go-to guy for anything comic related. With his style he is difficult to watch and after he published his own book he became more difficult.

ComicTom is another one of those YouTubers I tried and I just couldn't take his style. I did Reggie for a while until he basically said CBCS was crap and no one should use them. I used to watch Minthunter because he had some interesting information and he at least gave CBCS some credit for being a better company. When he lost his job and became a full time seller, his objectivism went out the window. He actually said the other day that all the talk about CGC's 9.9's is false information, that CGC hasn't been giving out more 9.9's.

The one YouTube cannel I watch regularly is Bronze and Modern Gods. The shows are basically about a couple guys sitting around taking comics. They have Show and Tell, the 25 Year Rule (They highlight a book from 25 years ago), the Old Fart Rule, (They highlight a book from 40 years ago), Hot Book of the week, Viewer mail and on Thursday's live stream, they invite subscribers to join them with Show and Tell. They are all about the hobby, not what they think you should buy. I also am a subscriber and enjoy watching the craziness that can ensue on their show.
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Oh lordy, save me from the comic book influencers.




Girly girl and wham bam thank you comic fam and the others.
All trying to be popular in a hobby they entered five minutes ago.
But not fun and games when some were called out buying multiple copies of a after market limited con exclusive so they can corner the market to flip like they just invented flipping on Why not?. During acegate!

There's a cure for that.

UNSUBSCRIBE!
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Competition is good for the hobby as long as they are a healthy competition. CGC has not been healthy for the hobby for some time. We'll see what PSA has to offer.
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