CGC knowingly damaging books?20972
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Jgwalters100 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's hard because if I'm keeping a book I'm using cbcs. But when you are selling it's hard to just accept less profit. Because sadly that's how it is. | ||
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 Beaten by boat oars
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I don't typically have this issue in the event I sell something. I don't list a CBCS graded book for 35% less than its CGC counterpart. | ||
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Jgwalters100 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yeah me either. I'm happy to win auctions for a 15 percent discount and get cbcs books. I prefer em but cgc seems to win out price wise. I'd prefer it didn't because I haven't used them in over 2 years. | ||
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Every CBCCS book I'm bidding on always seems to go for current market price or more. I mean, yeah, if you list your Rom 27 in an auction that starts at $1, then you're probably going to be disappointed. |
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Jgwalters100 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well that's good to hear. While I buy a fair amount I'd imagine there are many of you more knowledgeable and buying and selling much more then me. If they are going for equal then that's really good to know and is one more reason to not use cgc. | ||
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 Apparently, I am easily annoyed.
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Rbolton private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I agree, the CBCS books I bid on (mostly older horror or sci-if) seem to go for the equivalent if not higher than the same CGC books | ||
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 I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Completely off topic here but just dropped my box off at the post office and there wasn't a line! It was meant to be! Haha let's go. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| When I used to sell I always priced my cbcs books the same as I would for cgc books. I never noticed a difference. I don't subscribe to this cbcs discount....I personally haven't seen it and when others attempt to prove it there are examples that can be used to show cbcs selling for more, so.......at the very least...for me...that belief is inconclusive. |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| We've had this conversation repeatedly. There are even wild price swings for books in the same grade graded by the cgc. Sometimes varying by hundreds of dollars. | ||
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
There's a book I want, but the serial number starts with 44.  |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DrWatson don't do it. | ||
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Nope, stay clear . | ||
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Or, more rationally, ask for an edge-on photo of the book (from either side). The warp will be readily apparent if there. |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So far two books received back from my ~40 book submission. No warps. I will take any necessary next steps after my full submission is returned to me. Everything is well-documented. Will keep the forum posted when I have a more complete picture. |
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Davethebrave wish I was as fortunate as you; last one was a noticeable bend. | ||
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 Suck it up, buttercup!!
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I don't know...being paranoid now I guess. Looked at the last time I sent to CGC - serial numbers starting with 42 Some look perfect....some have a little curve...maybe that's the 'within tolerance' One or two look like odd kinks or waves in the cover but then they are 9.2/9.4/9.6 and the kink is by a spine tick so it could be pressing reversion?? (not CCS!!!) At least these were always meant to be sold so at some point I won't have to look at them!! PC books go to CBCS or more likely stay in their boxes for now as I find CBCS pricey in grading, shipping and insurance...... |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
I only have one incoming, but I'll also update if there's a curve when I receive it. I got it for $29 and couldn't find a raw in similar condition for the price. I think grading costs more than that for 1974 so it was worth the risk. I'm still rational and stay away from anything pricey. I don't know if I can say the same about @ComicNinja0215   |
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @flanders it wasn't a valuable book at all but was 10.00 to press and the rest covered by membership credits. It's important to me though and the fact that this was another victim of their neglect; I'm done. |
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 I blame the forum gremlins.
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figment private msg quote post Address this user | |
| We've discovered several CGC purchases from the past few months with curved sleeves. It's all mid-grade Silver and Bronze so you'd never otherwise notice, but it still matters. Sigh. | ||
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@figment sorry man  |
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Cracked a book that was curved. It still looks curved in the well but not as pronounced. Idk if it's the case or the well but either way; it's going to cbcs. | ||
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SauceDog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders The general thought on the CGC boards is that it's 1975-present CGC 437 series or higher books is where the problem warping is found, so yours might be fine based on the year (though it is in the newer # range)  |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
my 434...is bowed inside. |
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I wish I had a title.
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @GAC |
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SauceDog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Looks like the problem then goes further back than last December submissions. When was your graded? |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SauceDog Grade Date: 11/06/2023 |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I may need to go back to my rule about no new labels. | ||
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Welcome to the class action lawsuit. I'm going to check my slabs and see if I qualify. |
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Apparently, I am easily annoyed.
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Rbolton private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I have two that start in 4314 and 4318 that were graded 9/6/23 and 9/26/23 that are both bent badly. | ||
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders I said this in jest, but I'm assuming there will be one. This forum seems like a good place to post a new thread (since CGC won't allow it on theirs) and maybe someone can start a website, similar to the Hero Restoration issue, where people can submit their claims. This definitely isn't something people should look the other way on. It appears CGC does not care about the hobby and has no integrity by continually ignoring this issue. Edit: I'm a big fan of several auction houses, but if they've known about the issue and have chosen to ignore it as well, I'm sure they'll be added as defendants. |
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