CGC knowingly damaging books?20972
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| One of the previous CGC bad slab designs was known as the Frankenslab or creep engine slab. How about calling this one the Banana Boat Slab? | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| or the Boomerang Slab.....the problem that keeps coming back. | ||
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| Why is this so hard?? What witchcraft did CBCS conjure that nobody else seems to be able to accomplish?? | ||
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| Those kind of errors by CGC wouldn't be NEARLY as hard to swallow if they didn't LIE to us about how they happened. It pisses me off to no end that they say they do one thing, but it's so obvious that they do another. <--- and that goes for many, many of their procedures. Everybody makes mistakes. Everybody. But to continuously refuse to own it ... unacceptable. It also makes me shake my head when I see people (CGC employees and collectors) continuously defend them for their screwups/lies. It's one thing to be vocal about how much you like them, it's another thing, altogether, to continuously defend them for those same screwups/lies. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard ....especially when these same people will crucify CBCS and other competitors for a fraction of these wrongdoings.....hypocrisy at its finest and their credibility at its lowest. |
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Mean while at CGC.. |
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 I haven't aired it out. It's part of the provenance.
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Ongoing, at CGC. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave @Davethebrave happy birthday! I hope this turned out well. |
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| Happy birthday dave! | ||
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Happy birthday, Dave!!! |
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| Thanks! As for the results of my submission, two back so far and both show no issues… no conclusions until the rest are returned, however… | ||
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 I'm not a plagiarist. I'm also not illiterate.
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| @Davethebrave - Hope you had a blast on your birthday! | ||
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| I book I had graded there in 2023 has a slight "bow" in it. Looks kind of like a frown face. As soon as I get a chance I'll send it here to straighten it out. |
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| I gave customer service a call regarding my book that I believed was curved. I finally got a response back saying this is normal and within grading standards. I sent a reply email back which read like this: Thank you for getting back to me ; much appreciated. The customer service team at cgc has always been great to work with. Unfortunately, I feel this response is unacceptable. I don't belive this is a normal occurance . I feel that my future of grading with CGC is uncertain. I'd like to see books returned to customers without bending inside their case. I will be seeking business with competition grading company for the time being. I may return one day to continue submitting books regularly but for right now ; I have to step away .I wish the best of luck in the future. Sincerely, Nicholas Sorry charlie, home don't play that. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Like, seriously?? What is wrong with you people lol. This isn't about just me though; it's about everyone. So, big shout out to @Davethebrave because we wouldn't know about this if he didn't report on it first.  |
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| I would like to tell everyone about my recent experience. First, a shoutout to Davethebrave for bringing this issue to our attention and for direct messaging with me. Sure he wasn't the first person to know about this situation but he was the one who informed others on this site. About the time I read this fascinating thread, I won several auctions for slabbed comics via ComicLink and another slab via MyComicShop (MCS). Among the ComicLink slabs was an ASM #237 CGC 9.8 and the MCS comic was a Marvel Team-Up #95 CGC 9.8. The comics arrived within a day or two of each other and upon opening each of them I immediately noticed that both were not 9.8 comics. I mean it jumped out at me. Each had severe spine stresses roughly between the staples which has caused 2-3 spine ticks, a couple of which were severe themselves. I looked at the comics from the side and this thread came to mind as I noticed how bent the comics were. Both had the top and bottom of the comic pressed upward touching the front of the slab and the middle pressed backward touching the back of the slab. It was severe and easy to see with the naked eye when looking from the side. I looked up the cert numbers and one was slabbed in April and the other in May of 2024. Resolution - First we know this is 100% an issue by CGC, however, I called customer service for each auction company as I feel like they have some responsibility as well since they know about this issue and shouldn't be selling these comics. I also think they have much more stroke with CGC than any individual. I suppose the damage this issue causes is actually hard to see on most comics but it stands out on 9.8s. In any case, I told them I was aware of the issue with CGC and asked if they were. Both affirmed they were aware of it but were brief and I could tell they didn't want to chit chat about it. Both told me to email them pictures and both, to their credit, had me return the comics for full refund. MCS wouldn't pay the return shipping but whatever. My suggestion is that you should stay away from CGC slabs with certs starting with 43 or 44 as these are the affected ones - that's what someone else on this site said previously and I agree with them. Or maybe just stay away from CGC altogether. I believe this issue is much larger than people realize. |
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| @PhilCoulson thank you for posting this. Unfortunately, even scans can hide indentations and other damages to comics. Edit: Also, I'm sure there will be a massive class-action lawsuit against the CGC for this in the not too distant future. I won't be involved since I mainly collect dreck. |
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| I'm surprised they let you return the books. I wonder how they explain to the seller that they aren't getting paid? | ||
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| @DrWatson I think Comiclink and MCS are now the owners of those books. That's also why MCS undergrades. They don't want to deal with a bunch of returns on raw consignments. | ||
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| What a mess this whole situation has become. The weird thing to me is that, even today, I see comments on Instagram from people stating that they are about to send some super-expensive books to CGC for grading. And I mean like "really nice Timely Captain America #1" expensive. At the very least, I think I'd wait to submit a book like that until I was sure that it wasn't going to be damaged by the slab. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 Preach |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders I don't see how they could do that. They not going to eat every book that could be potentially returned. I could see them returning the book to the consignor and telling them to take it up with the cgc. |
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