CGC knowingly damaging books?20972
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| @flanders spine tick or two as well | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Maybe it's a bad press job from CGC, followed by bad encapsulation. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/350613-where-in-the-world-was-the-quality-control-at-cgc/page/310/#comments check post by Complex306 10 hours ago |
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@Nuffsaid111 Word!!!    |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Galen130 The upside down variant |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ComicNinja0215 dang!!!! and here I was looking for CPV issues.... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Galen130 Reminds me of this classicā¦  |
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| These things kinda prove that QC is not part of either company's infrastructure. One person can make the mistake when making the product. But a second person who is responsible for QC letting it go? Nope - doesn't make sense to me. Or perhaps QC is a sampling of the total as is done in some manufacturing. I just can't see how two people (or more) can miss these; and allow to go out to their customer base. We're all being railroaded if we are lead to believe there is a QC department and they're doing 100% inspection. |
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| The issue is that people doing a routine process are ripe for these mistakes. As incredible as it seems with the examples, it could be as simple as someone ordering (positioning) the slab in the wrong direction for a standard assembly and then similarly, the mis-oriented book flows through another assembly-type QC process. I think the ātwo person reviewā is in the grading stage and likely eats up most of the labor time that can be directed to comic grading. Consider all the steps involved in grading a comic and then consider the prices charged. For modern books letās assume $25. Now, consider the handling steps of the books: * inbound logistics (receiving, opening, sorting, transporting and placing books) * invoice matching and data entry (partially automated) * grading steps and handling * encapsulation steps * QC steps * outbound logistics and data entry * other overhead that is fixed and needs to be allocated (building, utilities, CS, marketing etc) * add on the materials cost for the slabbing itself Now, consider where the average hourly pay stands in the US. So how much total time can be allocated and still achieve some semblance of margin? This is a business that relies mostly on US labor, so not like your shoes or cheap electronics. If you factor all the above in, you will see that the manual labor time that can be spent per book at the lower price points is exceptionally small. So I am not shocked by these seemingly stupid errors. If someone places the slab in the wrong direction, and the reviewer is doing his routine work ā¦ it could slip through. Of course there are ways to catch this or reduce the likelihood, but noone would pay to absolutely eliminate the mistakesā¦ except when the books are worth big $$$ā¦ and where the fees are commensurately higher. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| These upside down book errors are extremely rare.....once the inner well was divided, seperating the label from the comic, it made mistakes like this more likely but it's still rare....to the point that it doesn't even matter. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC And eliminating the chance of it ever happening is not cost-effective. Especially vs the cost to correctā¦ The real investment of time has to be in authenticating books vs forgeries. Especially high-value books. The moment a pure forgery slips by of something like an AF15 or AC1, etcā¦ that is when the confidence in grading takes a massive hit. |
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| I don't even think it's a miss. I think they may have random sampling during QC for low value books. This is just too obvious even for the boring, routine, low pay employee to miss. And it bothers the F out of me because it is yet another example of their incompetence that is just tossed aside as "well it's a low cost organization that needs to keep prices down, so all these mistakes we see are bound to happen". It's too much; too often; and in too many areas in Total to just brush aside incompetence and unacceptable outcomes. Maybe this alone is acceptable and brushed aside; but not ALL the topics we see is NOT acceptable. Their Quality, in total, for all issues, sucks and that is the mic drop. My "Mechanical Error" rate of return is around 15 - 20% for the last few years. Is that ok because they have to keep costs down? No it is not |
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| QC was VERY important to me, Haspel and Litch when opening CGC. Same when I opened CBCS. Beckett got rid of QC when they acquired CBCS. Dumb move! That said, they have now a QC person or persons. A bit too late. CGC has NO excuse. Period. We must protect our hobby!!!!! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GACis it? I was thinking art was subjective to perception. Perhaps the true meaning of this captured moment of Spawn comes through at this upside down perspective  Todd is playing games? The rest are actually slabbed wrong? š¤Æ |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash CBCS QC are expressing themselves artistically! |
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| One of the previous CGC bad slab designs was known as the Frankenslab or creep engine slab. How about calling this one the Banana Boat Slab? | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| or the Boomerang Slab.....the problem that keeps coming back. | ||
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| Why is this so hard?? What witchcraft did CBCS conjure that nobody else seems to be able to accomplish?? | ||
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