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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley
Stay on target. https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/540840-crossover-fail/

I'm not sure how one goes from a CBCS 9.8 to a CGC 7.5 but it sounds like someone funked this dude's book up. I'm not buying that the crease was always on the back cover and CBCS somehow missed it.

It would be nice if the OP of the thread gave an indication of whether the back cover crease was present when the book was still in the CBCS case. The way it's presented, it's unclear whether he thinks CBCS overgraded the book or CGC damaged the book.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Is it safe to say the latter?
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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Is it safe to say the latter?


Yes, it's possible either scenario happened. Cbcs makes mistakes, just not at the alarmingly high rate that cgc does.
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I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
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@Get_Marwood - You are more than welcome here, Steve. I’d love to see you repost the information you had on pence editions from across the street. The format here is rather crude and hasn’t really changed in the nearly 9 years of its existence. But it’s a decent place to hang out and talk comics with some pretty nice guys and gals.


Thanks esaravo. It's certainly very friendly here, which I like. I did give it a go some years back, but the software doesn't allow me to do what I want to do. I don't suppose there are any plans for CBCS to migrate to a more adaptable forum is there?



It is patently absurd that CBCS what little money it costs to create a traditional message board forum.

Now that CGX is dropping the ball harder than ever before, CBCS should capitalize on this opportunity…

DitchDarebheit created a tradal forum board a few years ago as a *side project* , FFS.

@stevericketts, please kick this idea up the totem pole.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@PolarisNuclearSS2020 you mean similar to this?

https://www.beckett.com/forums/
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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Is it safe to say the latter?


Yes, it's possible either scenario happened. Cbcs makes mistakes, just not at the alarmingly high rate that cgc does.


It just would have been nice if he had clearly indicated. Maybe someone will ask in the original CGC forum thread.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
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Is it safe to say the latter?


Yes, it's possible either scenario happened. Cbcs makes mistakes, just not at the alarmingly high rate that cgc does.


That is a major downgrade. Sad. 😪
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Regardless of who's to blame.
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I did give it a go some years back, but the software doesn't allow me to do what I want to do. I don't suppose there are any plans for CBCS to migrate to a more adaptable forum is there?

@Get_Marwood I would love to hear more about what specifically you might want software wise!

Goes for everyone. Can't say I can definitely make anything happen, but we can't help with specific requests if we don't know! It's been mentioned in the engagement thread as well so I think we would love more input.
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I have not set up at a con since 2029. PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
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@PolarisNuclearSS2020 you mean similar to this?

https://www.beckett.com/forums/


That is my point.

That forum is not this forum.

So yes, CBCS should scrap this forum and create such a traditional forum board attached directly to the CBCS home page under the “CBCS Forum” link.

A forum wholly dedicated to CBCS, just as CGC has.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4518693002/

I must be blind. I zoomed in on the high resolution scans and see nothing.
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Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley
Stay on target. https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/540840-crossover-fail/

I'm not sure how one goes from a CBCS 9.8 to a CGC 7.5 but it sounds like someone funked this dude's book up. I'm not buying that the crease was always on the back cover and CBCS somehow missed it.


I hope whoever owns that book doesn't come to the cbcs forum. I don't want to deal with any numbskull that's so oblivious they would re-slab something, especially a 9.8, with cgc.

I can't imagine ever taking a chance on any 9.8 being reslabbed for any reason. Take your 9.8 and be grateful.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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@PolarisNuclearSS2020 you mean similar to this?

https://www.beckett.com/forums/


That is my point.

That forum is not this forum.

So yes, CBCS should scrap this forum and create such a traditional forum board attached directly to the CBCS home page under the “CBCS Forum” link.

A forum wholly dedicated to CBCS, just as CGC has.


I was making fun of the fact that cbcs's parent company even has a normal forum and despite us griping for years about how awful the design is, they've done nothing to improve it. You'd think they'd just hire the same developer, who would copy and paste the code, and have it done in no time.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Is it safe to say the latter?


Yes, it's possible either scenario happened. Cbcs makes mistakes, just not at the alarmingly high rate that cgc does.

If blame were butter, we'd all be greasy.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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What is an old fashioned doughnut, plain glazed?


In Canada, old fashioned is just fried dough....no glaze. it's a sweet "bread" but no glaze....it's tasty.



Around here, that is a plain cake doughnut.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
@DrWatson yes sir.
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I'll focus more on one off mucking aboutery. Get_Marwood private msg quote post Address this user
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I did give it a go some years back, but the software doesn't allow me to do what I want to do. I don't suppose there are any plans for CBCS to migrate to a more adaptable forum is there?

@Get_Marwood I would love to hear more about what specifically you might want software wise!

Goes for everyone. Can't say I can definitely make anything happen, but we can't help with specific requests if we don't know! It's been mentioned in the engagement thread as well so I think we would love more input.


Hello Wade.

I'm happy to provide some feedback here and I'll do so by comparing the CBCS forum to the CGC one if I may. I want to be clear that CBCS and CGC are irrelevant in what follows - I'm comparing the forum software that CBCS use (Ninjapost) to the software that CGC use (Invision).

I want you to think as if you are a comic enthusiast, visiting each of the forums in turn for the first time. The first difference you will see is that the CGC/Invision software provides structure. There you will see different forums and sub-forums, tailored to the subject matter, with clear headings to assist navigation. If you are interested in, say, the Silver Age, you'll see a Silver Age forum over at CGC on their landing page. Here at CBCS, we have a landing page that is in effect one long toilet roll comprising every thread ever created. Tags are not forum headings. This makes navigation very difficult and off-putting. Once a thread is a few weeks old, it is out of sight.

Once you access a CBCS thread, you are presented with things like this:











That looks like a child devised the formatting. This is what you will see atop a CGC forum thread:




Once you get to the actual thread content, the CBCS forum has a pointless, annoying feature whereby the last few posts from the previous page are repeated. So you may have scrolled for ages just to get to new content and I find myself second guessing what is new and what is repeated.

When it comes to actually composing a post, the CBCS forum software is a like a wooden box on wheels compared to the Ferrari that is the CGC forum software. Take a look at this post I made just before being banned:

https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/471133-the-distribution-of-us-published-comics-in-the-uk-1959~1982/page/328/#findComment-13352816

It would be impossible to recreate that here at CBCS. The Invision software that CGC uses allows me to:

- Add multiple images quickly and easily
- Resize those images
- Place them side by side
- Add hyper links to them
- Centre them

The process of adding content - whether that be an image, link, gif or member tag - is simplicity itself.

The layout at CGC is so much more user friendly with clear visual delineation between posts. They have journals, galleries, events, leaderboards, online users page, 'my activity' functionality. At CGC I can like a post in a number of ways - funny, sad, like, thanks, and it has meaning. Here the 'votes' mean what? If I think someone has made a funny post I have to say it, in a post, as giving a vote out of three ticks has no meaning.

At CGC, I can click on a hyperlink in a quoted post to take me back to the original post, allowing me to better understand the discussion at that point, and when it was made.

Take a look at my profile page at CGC. Look at all the things I can do with it, and the information it provides:

https://boards.cgccomics.com/profile/34042-get-marwood-i/

I could go on - but essentially I think that CBCS have been reliant on the Ninja software for too long and it is like something out of the Ark when compared to the Invision package that CGC pay for.

I don't think there is anything you can do to enhance the current package. The best solution would be for CBCS to migrate to a package similar to Invision, as CGC did around 8 years ago.

I would love to post here more often. The members are nice. But the software is - I'll be frank - awful. I don't think the Invision package is particularly expensive, but if CBCS want to be taken seriously as a community forum provider then they really do need to do something. I can't imagine many younger collectors would want to join here - it's so outdated and clunky.

I stress again - this isn't me bashing CBCS and praising CGC. I'm bashing Ninjapost and praising Invision.

I hope that helps.

http://www.ninjapost.com/

https://invisioncommunity.com/
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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Once you get to the actual thread content, the CBCS forum has a pointless, annoying feature whereby the last few posts from the previous page are repeated.


This tramautizes me on an hourly basis.
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I'll focus more on one off mucking aboutery. Get_Marwood private msg quote post Address this user
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Once you get to the actual thread content, the CBCS forum has a pointless, annoying feature whereby the last few posts from the previous page are repeated.


This tramautizes me on an hourly basis.


It serves no purpose, other than to irritate. What is the rationale behind it? Do they think we've forgotten what was being discussed, and need a recap every time we go to the next page?
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Better be careful what you wish for. Beckett could easily just assimilate this forum into their existing, rather than spend time and money on a redesign. More than likely it would fall into a Beckett Grading Services sub-forum.
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Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley
Stay on target. https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/540840-crossover-fail/

I'm not sure how one goes from a CBCS 9.8 to a CGC 7.5 but it sounds like someone funked this dude's book up. I'm not buying that the crease was always on the back cover and CBCS somehow missed it.


Or they mixed up two books so a person submitting a 7.5 now has a 9.8 and the 9.8 now has a 7.5
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If CGC is monitoring this thread, best to have different id's on each board system. Usually a good idea in general, not just in the comics world.


Nah - not going in hiding because of that.
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I'll focus more on one off mucking aboutery. Get_Marwood private msg quote post Address this user
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Better be careful what you wish for. Beckett could easily just assimilate this forum into their existing, rather than spend time and money on a redesign. More than likely it would fall into a Beckett Grading Services sub-forum.


I'm not an IT expert, but this forum has no structure so it's difficult to see how it could migrate to a new, structured platform. CGC's old forum had an existing structure, and that structure was replicated into the Invision package. The old Silver Age forum was transferred to a new Silver Age forum, etc. How would you transfer the content of this forum across, if every thread that has been created here since the dawn of time effectively sits under the same heading?
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Once you get to the actual thread content, the CBCS forum has a pointless, annoying feature whereby the last few posts from the previous page are repeated.


This tramautizes me on an hourly basis.


yes but the posts which are repeated are in different color so annoying but quick to scroll down to the new posts
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I'll focus more on one off mucking aboutery. Get_Marwood private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Get_Marwood
Once you get to the actual thread content, the CBCS forum has a pointless, annoying feature whereby the last few posts from the previous page are repeated.


This tramautizes me on an hourly basis.


yes but the posts which are repeated are in different color so annoying but quick to scroll down to the new posts


How about I build four three foot brick walls outside your front door, five feet apart. Annoying, but it'll be quick to jump over them every morning when you go out
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Maybe they wouldn't transfer it. Maybe they'd just blow it the hell up and reinvent it as just a subforum of Beckett grading.

I don't know. I'm not in IT. either. I suppose I'm speaking more figuratively. Instead of being independent, we'd become a much smaller part of a whole.

It may not be perfect, but it's ours, and frankly, I find it rather enjoyable.

When Borock first started CBCS, he didn't want a forum carbon copied off the cgc. He made that clear more than once. Who knows what his reasons were? It's probably quite frightening what swirls around inside his tie-dyed mind.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Stay on target. https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/540840-crossover-fail/

I'm not sure how one goes from a CBCS 9.8 to a CGC 7.5 but it sounds like someone funked this dude's book up. I'm not buying that the crease was always on the back cover and CBCS somehow missed it.


I was in banned camp over at the cgc board so my posts are being viewed by moderators before being public posts....I'm not confident this post will make it passed the mods.

This is in response to the OP who got a cgc 7.5 from a cbcs 9.8 and he only collects cgc.




Lol.

BTW, I blame you for getting the QC thread closed when you started inviting everyone to the CBCS forum...lol


lol!!

Shockingly I'm still not permanently banned...I just logged in a few minutes ago....what's a guy to do to get banned in those parts?!
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Once you get to the actual thread content, the CBCS forum has a pointless, annoying feature whereby the last few posts from the previous page are repeated.


This tramautizes me on an hourly basis.


yes but the posts which are repeated are in different color so annoying but quick to scroll down to the new posts


How about I build four three foot brick walls outside your front door, five feet apart. Annoying, but it'll be quick to jump over them every morning when you go out


maybe find an analogy which is more relevant. you are talking about building a new wall vs something which is annoying but already there.
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There are no bad doughnuts. Even the picked over ones get eaten by the end of the day. Yes, crullers, I'm looking at you.


Agree! Maple bacon is my favorite, but can't go wrong with the classic old fashioned.


Was disappointed Dunkin didn’t bring back the ghost pepper donut…
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Apparently, I am easily annoyed. Rbolton private msg quote post Address this user
Thus is what we refer to as an old fashioned in Kansas. I’m getting doughnuts in the morning!

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