CGC knowingly damaging books?20972
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| I thought Tang was better than kool-aid. You guys remember Tang?? | ||
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| Oh man, must resist……. | ||
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Uh-oh... |
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| I’ve had my share of Tang 🤣 | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rbolton Ayyooooooo!!!!!🤣🤣🤣 |
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 How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @CapCityComics @Danimal1112 well, my 3 in house signature books arrived today and 2 of them are warped. Can’t begin to describe my anger and frustration. It’s been awhile — does CBCS accept authenticated CGC books for submission? |
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Danimal1112 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 Ugh…sorry. I am in the same boat on my SS book. I think the only option would be having CBCS verify the signatures which is not the same value as witnessed based on what I have seen. I could be wrong though. Unfortunately, I am just keeping mine as is to keep the witnessed signatures. |
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| @lawguy1977 i think you will have tonuse the verified option. That's what I did. | ||
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 I blame the forum gremlins.
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figment private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 Yes. I heard @SteveRicketts describe them as "easy to open". There's no extra charge for that, but you'd have to get the signature(s) reverified. |
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| I think it's $8. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Now that CGC is verifying signatures...has CBCS said if they will honor CGC verified signatures or will CBCS insist on verifying it themselves? | ||
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| My banana book that I sent to CBCS with a press screen was examined today. They said that if it had any hope of keeping the 9.8, it would need to be pressed. They also said it was definitely a banana book. I think their exact words were, "Holy shit, man!" |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DrWatson I pressed both of mine. No way they would have a chance without it. | ||
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 CBCS Finalizer
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Wade_Story private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC JSA verifications were never recognized prior, and I have not heard of that changing. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I used to eat the Tang powder as a kid. Disgusting, I know. But that incredible surge of sweetness was a rush! LOL |
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| @Nuffsaid111 damn skippy lol | ||
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I blame the forum gremlins.
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figment private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by CapCityComics I still can't get past this one. I wouldn't get back in that line even once. I mean... how many times would you stand in the "pat on the back" line only to get "stabbed in the back" instead?!? |
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| FYI, mine aren't verified signatures with JSA, they're authentic from the in-house signing. I'm just debating if it's even worth my time to try another ME after the last failure. Just unbelievable. | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 $8, plus pressing and grading fees. |
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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| @DrWatson thanks! | ||
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by figment For real!! What's the definition of insanity kids?? |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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Quote:Originally Posted by figment This is what Ross was talking about.. or maybe just karma for the greedy flippers.  |
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figment private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So how far back do we think the bananas go? I just found one that starts "3806". BLARG!!! | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well, that's no bueno. I was avoiding all serial numbers that begin with a 4 for safe measures. | ||
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by figment I posted in another thread but depending on how we define “banana book” it goes back at least 4 years - which matches what you report. |
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| Here is what my one “impacted” book looks like. This is the book that I saw had the inner well start on one side and end at the other side (eg front to back) and with a barely perceptible curve. This is the spine view. A perfect 9.8 early BA book with a black cover and no spine ticks. I decided there is zero issue with this book and its encapsulation and zero reason to reslab it. While there is a barely noticeable curve, it is deceiving at first glance because the book is “angled” in the slab. But the spine itself is virtually perfectly straight. I drew a line across so you can see the consistency in the gap between the drawn line and the book’s spine. Some books are truly bowed - mine isn’t. Of a 40 book submission none show any issues. If I look at old slabs, some show the same front to back angled encapsulation (going back at least to 2007). At quick glance, someone may call them banana books. Some I am sure also have this harmless / nearly imperceptible curvature… and since people are looking for it, they will see it.  |
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| @Davethebrave would we assume the slight curve you show is mechanical error or the condition of the book itself? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Well, there is virtually no curvature at all. My estimate is that the amount of deviation along the spine (from perfectly straight) is about 1mm. The angle of the encapsulation makes it appear like a touch more than that, but the drawn line demonstrates it’s an optical illusion. So I cannot say if the inner well curved the book that amount or vice versa. Here is a bowed book from the CGC forum with another line drawn. It appears to be about 5mm of deviation and has a warp where the book’s inner well sits on the same side of the case but then bends in the middle to the opposite side of the case. When I look at old slabs the inner wells seem to sit flat (on one side, no angling) except for one from 2007… where it has the issue of being angled (but, again, no meaningful curve of the book itself). It seems the recently slabbed books are not fitting correctly or were being pinched at each end (and compressed) or settling on an angle in less severe cases; the latter does not result in a bent inner well. I point this out because the angled encapsulation is a deviation from the norm and unless inspected closely, could look like a “half bend”… Again, of 41 books graded this year, only one exhibits even this angled issue for me. The rest lay properly flat (top and bottom inner well edges on the same side of the slab). I have another 44x series book on its way to me and I am not expecting any bowing on that either (PA era book)… but I will take a look once received. For those receiving bowed books, I am curious it any older vintages are exhibiting an actual curve or merely sitting angled in the slab… or something else. An example of a bowed book:  |
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It’s hard to capture the extent of what is going on in the slab in a picture, but these are the two bowed books I got back from the Jim Lee signing. The bottom of both books are bowed.   |
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| On the two I've had, the top and bottom of the inner well touch the inside of the front of the slab while the middle dips down and touches the inside bottom potion of the slab. When compared to an inner well that is flat, it is very, very obvious. If the term banana slabs hadn't already been used, I'd call them boomerang slabs. They keep making their way back to the cgc for reholder time and time again. |
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