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@flanders Do you work for CBCS or are you friends with the owners?
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@cinnamon no and neither does @DrWatson. Cbcs employees on this forum have a blue bar at the bottom of their profile picture. We only get snarky when people are being a bit ridiculous. Constantly complaining despite being given an explanation of why turnaround times are a bit longer than expected, is somewhat annoying.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Different tiers have different times. Any VSP or ASP adds time as does pressing or even press screen; which is a great service.
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Collector cinnamon private msg quote post Address this user
@flanders So you think that being rude and putting down other customers of CBCS is acceptable? People have valid reasons to complain when they advertise a certain timeframe that they fail to meet, and provide poor customer service.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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@flanders So you think that being rude and putting down other customers of CBCS is acceptable? People have valid reasons to complain when they advertise a certain timeframe that they fail to meet, and provide poor customer service.


I don't think insulting people is a good choice. I personally haven't insulted anyone regarding turnaround times. I've only given my opinion of why it's unreasonable to keep complaining despite being provided information of why it's taking longer than expected.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user

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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
It took a few days for my order to get checked in and being honest; i was a little annoyed. However, yelling and screaming about it doesn't help and wouldn't you kno2, they were in the next day. Sometimes it happens right away ; Sometimes not. I had one two book order for six months but that was a different time.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
@GothamBridge I am not an employee of CBCS and I'm not insulting anyone. I do have friends that have worked for CBCS and currently work CBCS. I helped beta test the boards, so I've been here for a long time. I contact customer support with my questions and wait for answers just like everyone else. They're not always the answers I want, but complaining about the little things only drags everyone down into the weeds and slows down the entire machine.

Submitting comics for grading takes patience. Those who don't have it, or have Type A personalities, should probably consider buying already graded books. Life happens and things don't always go to plan.
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Stop complaining so much.


technically I have not complained at all.

All I am saying is that if you pay money, you should expect the product within the confines of the agreement of that purchase, and the terms of that agreement are in place by CBCS, not the customer.

I dont even get why this is being argued?
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@flanders So you think that being rude and putting down other customers of CBCS is acceptable? People have valid reasons to complain when they advertise a certain timeframe that they fail to meet, and provide poor customer service.


I don't think insulting people is a good choice. I personally haven't insulted anyone regarding turnaround times. I've only given my opinion of why it's unreasonable to keep complaining despite being provided information of why it's taking longer than expected.


Aren't TAT'S estimated?? I believe they are.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@ComicNinja0215 yes they are and I believe there used to be something on the site that stated all turnaround times are estimates. I don't see that anymore.

That being said, the estimated turnaround time for my most recent submission is 50 business days (30 grading, 20 vsp). By my own estimate, it should be closer to 60 business days due to an increase in volume.

Received: 12-26
Estimated Shipment from CBCS: 3-25 (60 business days, excluding holidays from when comics were received).

If I weren't a seasoned veteran I'd probably be a bit upset if my books weren't shipped by the 70 business day mark. That would still seem reasonably close to the initial estimate to me.

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I dont even get why this is being argued?


As I stated before, the express tier is the only one guaranteed or your money back. For other tiers it's CBCS's best estimate, which is usually accurate outside of never heard before promotions.

It's being argued because CBCS has responded directly to you already and your repeat posts make it seem like CBCS is doing something wrong. You're stating that CBCS is in violation of their agreement. The way that's worded makes it seem like CBCS violated your books. It's as ridiculous an overreaction as someone stating they're going to get their bank involved because it's been one week past the estimated turnaround time.

Unless we give our opinion backed by facts it opens up an avenue for a bunch of people to start overreacting to a common situation. Increase in volume affects turnaround times in any industry. CBCS isn't going to hire a bunch of temps or make their employees work crazy overtime hours in order to get submissions within an estimated turnaround time. Especially when, they're only missing their mark on non-guaranteed tiers by as little as a week.

CBCS has directly responded to you, you're in a thread with a wealth of information about turn around times, people here have given thorough explanations and have been very informative, yet you're still beating CBCS over the head about a slight increase in turnaround times. Why wouldn't people be arguing with you at this point?

TLDR: Guaranteed turnaround times aren't part of your purchase agreement. That's only for the express tier.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
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@ComicNinja0215 yes they are and I believe there used to be something on the site that stated all turnaround times are estimates. I don't see that anymore.


I thought so๐Ÿบ nobody's times are accurate. Except PGX but we're not going there haha
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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are you friends with the owners?


No, I have no friends...
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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are you friends with the owners?


No, I have no friends...

That's not entirely true. I pay close enough attention to know that your Christmas stocking says "Jamie" on it.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
@flanders yeah you do man, you have us. ๐Ÿบ
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Someday, I'll dump twenty books at the cbcs. There's always a new goal.
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself. lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user
All I can contribute to this is my own personal experience -- I've done 9 submissions in the past year -- all with pressing, VSP, etc. Every submission but 1 was within their posted TATs. That's from the time it's "received" in their system to the time it's "shipped" out. It's business days, not calendar days, and it doesn't include holidays.

The only outlier was my last submission that I received -- it was late by about 4 business days. And despite the influx of the submissions for the holiday promo, it looks like CBCS is still staying close to the TATs.

So if there is a submission that is a month or more after that time frame, then I'd say it's not the norm and, yes, it's worth contacting customer service or the folks on this board that work for CBCS, of course. I would do the same. I would want CBCS to respond and help me.

Mistakes happen. Sometimes orders don't get processed correctly. It happens here. When it does, it should be corrected.

So when I see this ongoing back and forth, I'd like to know because I think I missed it from earliers posts:

@cinnamon When was your order received and what was the time frame for it (modern, vintage, pressing, vsp, etc.)? Did you hear back about your submission and have your received your books?

@robtmcd When was your order received and what was the time frame for it (modern, vintage, pressing, vsp, etc.)? Did you hear back about your submission and have your received your books?

I ask because I donโ€™t recall seeing that, and Iโ€™d like to know if you both have had updates or gotten your submissions back. I'm a big fan of results, and I hope both of you have had some with your books here.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
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are you friends with the owners?


No, I have no friends...


I think Timmy would have something to bark/say about that.
I mean midnight snacks only come from a friend
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@ComicNinja0215 @DrWatson @Nearmint67 I appreciate it guys. I was saying it in jest in case anyone was concerned that I'm depressed and lonely. Fortunately, I do have friends, but the older we become the more spaced out we get across the US.


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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
@flanders yeah, we're all.over the place. NEPA represent!! Lol we have Scranton and that's about it.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Anyway, back to the lecture at hand.

I remember when the CGC kept moving the goal post during the pandemic because submissions were heavy.
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@ComicNinja0215 yes they are and I believe there used to be something on the site that stated all turnaround times are estimates. I don't see that anymore.

That being said, the estimated turnaround time for my most recent submission is 50 business days (30 grading, 20 vsp). By my own estimate, it should be closer to 60 business days due to an increase in volume.

Received: 12-26
Estimated Shipment from CBCS: 3-25 (60 business days, excluding holidays from when comics were received).

If I weren't a seasoned veteran I'd probably be a bit upset if my books weren't shipped by the 70 business day mark. That would still seem reasonably close to the initial estimate to me.

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Originally Posted by GothamBridge
I dont even get why this is being argued?


As I stated before, the express tier is the only one guaranteed or your money back. For other tiers it's CBCS's best estimate, which is usually accurate outside of never heard before promotions.

It's being argued because CBCS has responded directly to you already and your repeat posts make it seem like CBCS is doing something wrong. You're stating that CBCS is in violation of their agreement. The way that's worded makes it seem like CBCS violated your books. It's as ridiculous an overreaction as someone stating they're going to get their bank involved because it's been one week past the estimated turnaround time.

Unless we give our opinion backed by facts it opens up an avenue for a bunch of people to start overreacting to a common situation. Increase in volume affects turnaround times in any industry. CBCS isn't going to hire a bunch of temps or make their employees work crazy overtime hours in order to get submissions within an estimated turnaround time. Especially when, they're only missing their mark on non-guaranteed tiers by as little as a week.

CBCS has directly responded to you, you're in a thread with a wealth of information about turn around times, people here have given thorough explanations and have been very informative, yet you're still beating CBCS over the head about a slight increase in turnaround times. Why wouldn't people be arguing with you at this point?

TLDR: Guaranteed turnaround times aren't part of your purchase agreement. That's only for the express tier.


all due respect, you have me confused with someone else.

I have not been notified by CBCS in any way on my current submission. They have sent me no updates by email but currently they are NOT late with my current submission. that said, my statements are in general terms of business, per their stated turn around times. As you have already admitted, if they had a statement that turn around times were estimated, that is no longer stated on their website. I was not even aware of a statement from the past that said that, because I was going on what it states currently.

For the record, I am NOT bashing CBCS, in fact, I would prefer that they tighten up the things that are concerns from people on this forum, so they can kick CGC's ass. I want CBCS to come on this forum, see where they can improve and make an effort to clear some of those issues up. Perhaps the removal of the "estimated times" is an effort by them to do just that, and if so, I commend them.

I agree 110% that there are people here with an insane amount of information, and, I for one appreciate it.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
They come back when they come back. Steve Rickitts is good for giving updates.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by flanders
@ComicNinja0215 yes they are and I believe there used to be something on the site that stated all turnaround times are estimates. I don't see that anymore.

That being said, the estimated turnaround time for my most recent submission is 50 business days (30 grading, 20 vsp). By my own estimate, it should be closer to 60 business days due to an increase in volume.

Received: 12-26
Estimated Shipment from CBCS: 3-25 (60 business days, excluding holidays from when comics were received).

If I weren't a seasoned veteran I'd probably be a bit upset if my books weren't shipped by the 70 business day mark. That would still seem reasonably close to the initial estimate to me.

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Originally Posted by GothamBridge
I dont even get why this is being argued?


As I stated before, the express tier is the only one guaranteed or your money back. For other tiers it's CBCS's best estimate, which is usually accurate outside of never heard before promotions.

It's being argued because CBCS has responded directly to you already and your repeat posts make it seem like CBCS is doing something wrong. You're stating that CBCS is in violation of their agreement. The way that's worded makes it seem like CBCS violated your books. It's as ridiculous an overreaction as someone stating they're going to get their bank involved because it's been one week past the estimated turnaround time.

Unless we give our opinion backed by facts it opens up an avenue for a bunch of people to start overreacting to a common situation. Increase in volume affects turnaround times in any industry. CBCS isn't going to hire a bunch of temps or make their employees work crazy overtime hours in order to get submissions within an estimated turnaround time. Especially when, they're only missing their mark on non-guaranteed tiers by as little as a week.

CBCS has directly responded to you, you're in a thread with a wealth of information about turn around times, people here have given thorough explanations and have been very informative, yet you're still beating CBCS over the head about a slight increase in turnaround times. Why wouldn't people be arguing with you at this point?

TLDR: Guaranteed turnaround times aren't part of your purchase agreement. That's only for the express tier.


all due respect, you have me confused with someone else.

I have been notified by CBCS in any way on my current submission. They have sent me no updates by email but currently they are NOT late with my current submission. that said, my statements are in general terms of business, per their stated turn around times. As you have already admitted, if they had a statement that turn around times were estimated, that is no longer stated on their website. I was not even aware of a statement from the past that said that, because I was going on what it states currently.

For the record, I am NOT bashing CBCS, in fact, I would prefer that they tighten up the things that are concerns from people on this forum, so they can kick CGC's ass. I want CBCS to come on this forum, see where they can improve and make an effort to clear some of those issues up. Perhaps they removal of the "estimated times" is an effort by them to do just that, and if so, I commend them.

I agree 110% that there are people here with an insane amount of information, and, I for one appreciate it.


Cody Lockwood is your guy.

Email him at clockwood@cbcs.com
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Cody is great ๐Ÿ‘
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