CBCS boss please look at this.20683
 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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| I was watching this channel tonight and seen this video and thought what a great opportunity for CBCS. If CBCS would offer to regrade his book for free and have such a rare book in a CBCS case could be a win for all. Since he had such a bad experience with CGC. Just a thought. What do you think? https://youtu.be/c9ur3Qli1Sg?si=TiPP9A0tlAm1KaDK |
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| I watched this and it's waaaaay too long. He could have cut 15 minutes and still got his point across. | ||
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| How about they start with compensating the guy who got screwed on the Spider-Man 2099 and then worry about correcting another company’s mistakes. | ||
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I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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| @BrashLimburg I never seen any real proof just hearsay when it comes to that. Where is the owner of the book at showing proof of all the claims? Still not totally believing it. | ||
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 I blame the forum gremlins.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashLimburg I really don't have much sympathy for that person, or anyone who actually believes that grading is purely an exact science. I also don't have much sympathy for grade chasers or people who buy the grade, not the book. In the past 15 years we've cracked and regraded roughly 30 books from both companies. About half come back the same grade while the other half come back different. Of the ones that come back different, more than half come back with a lower grade and the rest come back a higher grade. It is what it is and if anyone thinks that books can't be damaged (even slightly) in their holders then they're only deluding themselves. During that same period we've also submitted about 20 books for reholders, again from both companies. They've all come back exactly the same. |
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| @Zombie_Head Did you watch his other video about Megacon. He attended a CGC panel where they discuss grading. He said they told him they spend an average of 10 seconds grading a book. He also said the grader said he once did an Action #1 in three minutes. That's insane! @Rafel Yes he is extremely long winded. The other video is just as long. Overall interesting take on CGC and their lack of concern for their customer. We've all speculated the bottom line is all they care about and his experience shows that. |
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| @Belarak I agree and yes I watched it last night. It’s crazy some of the things he says about CGC practices. That’s what I kinda figured and that’s why I don’t use them. | ||
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| 50% accuracy - that's roughly about what I've seen with other test cases over the years with crack and re-slab. 50% is a number to be proud of. 50% the same & 50% different. Bravo. And one wonders why I call this whole thing one big giant scam that the hobby has fallen for hook, line, and stinker; thinking we need that kind of accuracy. Flipping a coin gets the same results. But oh yea... the weasel words "but it's all subjective". Makes me feel so much better now. Just what I need in my life - 50% accuracy and the added benefit of constant frustration from their behaviors/actions/policies. |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 To be honest, even if the grade is off (subjective), I am glad to have a 3rd party grade them with some guidelines. Rather than a dealer and I have a monster disagreement about book grade. The other reason why I am down with 3rd party grading is, I like the protection that slabbing offers my better books. My personal two cents. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort I hear ya. And I get it. And long ago when these companies behaved like companies, I get it even more. But with what I've seen from these 2 companies (particularly the 1 in Sarasota), I don't need this kind of competence COMBINED with their recent behaviors ands situations. It's like take any topic,... any topic... and they'll screw up that wet dream. I can do that on my own and pay a whole lot less for doing so. When the money was good coming from buyers who bought into this stuff, I didn't care. But now with the increasing depressed value of slabs, I really need to be considering an exit strategy from something I've known all along is B.S. Side note: that regrading of re-holders has me as fired up & irate as anything. It was the final straw |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 On the margins, the 3PG thing really has become a pretty stupid game. It serves a useful purpose on the whole, when utilized for what it was originally intended to do. It was intended to recognize and give a buyer confidence in the existing value. Now it's used to create value where little or no value existed before. I lose no sleep over the shenanigans or missteps. I have no outrage over a 9.9 being regraded as a 9.8. These companies aren't claiming they will one day cure cancer or land rockets on Mars. But we tend to talk about them as if we expect that level of precision and professionalism. |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Agreed. We are a small segment of the comic collecting universe. Most comic collectors collect raw books. A small percentage collect graded books. An even smaller percentage talk about it on a chat board. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Just for one month, I'd settle for a step above the Mickey Mouse club |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 You're in the wrong hobby. |
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 being an ass and being a clown are two very different things.
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CBCS Premium? |
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 Please continue to ignore anything I post.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros I laughed so much with this. You got that soooooooooooo right.... lol |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111when is cbcs going to grade Pogs |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Hope this happens soon - if and only if they re-grade the pogs during re-holders. Why break a trend of no confidence the 1st time around for pogs if none for comics |
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 I'm a #2.
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Quote:Originally Posted by sportshort Quote: Originally Posted by figment |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia All anyone is asking is that they show a basic level of transparency and competence but instead they trip on their dicks at every opportunity. It’s truly mind-boggling. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrashLimburg Spot On! Truly spot on! |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| For people that truly hate 3PG.....what a weird place to spend your time. | ||
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| It's all about the money for me. Love the money; dont believe in the product Just being honest And I have to stay on the forum for information to be a well informed seller; neither of these companies offer transparency (and do stupid stuff); so I rely on the forum members for info |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC No kidding. Complaints love an audience. Otherwise, it's like the tree falling in the forest with no one there to hear the sound. |
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| A well functioning company takes into consideration complaints and sometimes acts upon them. What a novel idea |
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| While I may not agree with everyone (or most), I generally find reading the opinions of others informative. Even if only to get the pulse of the community. Indeed, putting “pen to paper” and engaging also has value, even if the output is dismissed by many (or most). Some may wish to limit or moderate forum engagement beyond the forum’s official guidelines. “Don’t play in my sand box!” Personally, I think that devalues the forum, particularly considering how limited engagement already is. I’m neither a CBCS fanboy or CGC shill. Raising concerns has value - indeed tremendous potential value for CBCS management as well, particularly if they spend the time sorting the wheat from chaff. I am guessing not a sign of times but perhaps amplified by technology, the whole “team” undercurrent here - as in politics - is unfortunate. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| But you realize this a forum for collectors...people who like the hobby and for the most part CBCS....your complaints would actually be better served going directly to customer service....but then there's no audience when sending directly to customer service....also, the complaints are always the same....everyone knows your complaints....its as if you have complaint templates that you use whenever a new thread pops up. A newbie starts a thread complaining about something that we've all seen before and out come the "copy paste complaint post templates". | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I love comics and no matter what anyone thinks of grading it’s not going anywhere. It’s brought a tremendous amount of money into the hobby that I think is good for its survival. All that said, a monopoly of one comic grading company isn’t good and CBCS is the only credible counterweight to CGC. For that reason, CBCS can’t just be as good as CGC, it needs to be better. The “whelp they’re not landing on the moon” attitude ain’t gonna cut it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC By all means please show me the last time CBCS admitted they had a rogue grader and any book they handled (that I might now own or be bidding on) is mis-graded. I'll wait. |
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