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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Agreed. It wanders too far into judgment rather than fact. We know there may be shenanigans around witnessed signatures but those are limited to fraud (or mistake). Pedigree should have some chain of facts to establish provenance. Personally, I think signatures could also incorporate a chain of facts to establish provenance. It would almost never be worth the effort, however - so not something you can do as part of a standardized / mass marketed service. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Just to clarify, CGC (and I would assume CBCS as well) does not use gloves when grading books. If you go to CGC’s site, there’s a Matt Nelson video about grading that points this out. With gloves it’s apparently harder to detect certain things. So I wouldn’t put any stock into the fact that this “demo” video doesn’t show them wearing gloves either. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Hexigore I wouldn’t *think* so, but who really knows. Remember, Beckett uses stickers too - I have some autographed baseballs authenticated by Beckett - but luckily there are no stickers on our CBCS books  |
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Belarak private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @MisterMR When did you get your baseballs authenticated? I have two baseballs I sent in a couple years ago that are encased with no sticker. I had mine graded for the autograph too. I don't know if that makes a difference. | ||
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MisterMR private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Belarak 2021 I think? There’s an LOA option too for people who don’t want stickers. I THINK autograph grading (not just autograph authentication) also does not carry a sticker because I believe the item, in this case a baseball, is encased and the case will carry the signature grade on it. |
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I don't know...not sure who I will use for what in the future. CBCS Pros Better Cases Easy to direct sell through MCS Good pressing department Cons Have to pay extra bull shh!t fees to get books from FedEx Shipping/insurance rates are crazy to ameliorate those two I can pickup my books through a US mail service...but I don't particularly want to go over the border CGC Pros Can ship to Canada with no FedEx BS and lower rates Cons Mr Newton Can't figure how to direct ship to MCS - much easier to use CBCS if it's a book I know I want to sell Have to use 3rd party presser - can sometimes get dinged by FedEx on those - next time will try Canada Post to see if that issue goes away. People can complain all day about grading better or worse but in my own experience both have been accurate Now..it seems..both will have verified signatures There is very little between the two for me..at this point in time at least.... |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @KatKomics good points. I haven't submitted to cbcs in awhile so I forgot about their outrageous shipping rates. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think CBCS will need to consider their price point on verified signature. If there's too big a difference in CGC's favour, that might be an issue for them. The whole "grading thing" is getting very expensive...grading, pressing, sig verification, shipping, insurance...it adds up fast. They'll need to be cognizant of this as one doesn't want to price themselves completely out of the market. |
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Last books I got back I actually sent to MCS first for $5 left some to sell at MCS then had them ship me the remainder for much less than CBCS - I don't get it |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I miss the Oakville shipping hub. It was a good idea. They should have kept a rigid shipping schedule from Oakville to Texas/Florida. Example....Every two weeks (regardless of volume), what books have arrived in Oakville get shipped to CBCS. Atleast then, customers know, tack on 14 days to the process instead of your books staying in Oakville for what felt like indefinitely and never really knowing how long it'll take to ship out. |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think this will all be fun and games and big money conversations for cgc until there's an issue. Swapping verified books with witnessed books. The plot thickens. |
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 I like bean sprouts.
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James42 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics That almost seems like it would be worth doing on a regular basis. Just have all my submissions sent to MCS and then shipped to me by them. Best shipping in the industry. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @James42 I'm too big a fan of mcs to try to exploit them. They also charge a fee per book returned. | ||
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Im frequently told I'm going to hell...twice just this Tuesday!! I don't feel too bad though - no exploitation!. Basically I sent multiples of the same issues of different books/titles to get graded but only wanted the higher grade returned (some doubles I didn't want any back) MCS was aware and were kind enough to keep some issues and send the others on their way home. |
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ProdigalSon private msg quote post Address this user | |
| maybe I missed it.. but how much is their fee for signature authentication? | ||
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 Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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IronMan private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ProdigalSon Quote: How much will it cost to have my comics, magazines and cards authenticated by JSA and then graded and encapsulated by CGC? We will announce pricing in April when we make these combined services available. Our goal is to offer a superior service at simple, transparent and affordable prices. |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Affordable price until the corporate masters raise it annually. | ||
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I was just over there testing the waters out with the new pricing so I slapped my self and deleted the order. lol | ||
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan "Superior service" Hopefully that includes not doing what CBCS does with multiple signatures. Where on multiple-signed books, if one sig fails, they all automatically fail, but they keep all fees despite cases where the failed sig is (as an example) one of the first ones they check. So 10 sigs cost what, $250-ish? First or second one they check fails so they stop there, keep all the money and say "signature failed". |
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 Hmm... Moderated again!
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figment private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The ease of going from CBCS to MCS is entirely to the credit of MCS. There's actually no shipping involved, MCS goes and picks them up from CBCS on a regular basis. It's an advantage of only being 20 or so miles apart. This is a very powerful option for sellers, and genius on the part of MCS as it only increases their business. | ||
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 Whenever you have a monkey riding a horse, I'm in.
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Tom74152 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by figment I also had a Stan Lee unverified, might be fun to send it to CGC and see what happens. |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Still CBCS faithful.   |
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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IronMan private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Wow! I did not know this. Pretty brutal |
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Quote:Originally Posted by figment And CBCS's business. |
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RRO private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros If this actually is their policy then I certainly believe it to be unacceptable. But in light of a past CBCS money grab I was victim of; not surprising. |
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 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by RRO Do tell what happen to you for the money grab. |
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RRO private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_HeadHaving a FedEx account that was used to pay for return shipping, only to discover (long after the fact) that I was also billed for shipping by CBCS. After almost one year of being told that it was being looked into I finally got an apology with a note that "this will not happen again" but no refund was forthcoming. This also reminded me that everyone(myself included)should carefully check invoice line items closely. |
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 You can't get good wood on the ball every time.
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HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So this was supposed to roll out in April, anyone else shocked that it didn't happen on time? 🤣 Still not even an answer from CGC on the label color. Top notch work there in Florida, man. |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @HotKeyComics yeah this has been talked about for a long time and crickets. | ||
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think it's coming real soon. My presser got an email about some books (not mine) that had names written on cover and asked my presser if he wanted to hold the books a bit longer for grading & verification; and not have these graded yet in anticipation of the signature verification in (I believe) May. We'll see. But I did actually see the email to him from CGC |
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