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CGC’s latest buffoonery…20409

If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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9.9s and 10s are for nothing but a dog and pony show. The CGC trots them out whenever they feel like someone or something warrants a grand production.


Never got a 10.0. Some of my 9.9s were NYCC convention variants. The Locke & Key 1 and 4 were probably the most valuable 9.9s that I have gotten.

My belief is that a 9.8 becomes a 9.9 when the grader is in a really good mood for whatever reason.

9.9 and 10, also known as the just got laid grades.
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I haven’t aired it out…it’s part of the provenance. Galen130 private msg quote post Address this user
@DrWatson Unless you’re married. 🤣🤣🤣
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Somewhere, in this gullible world, there's that guy(s) out there who will claim there's a discernable difference between 9.8 & 9.9

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@DrWatson Unless you’re married. 🤣🤣🤣

Even more so if you're married.
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I haven’t aired it out…it’s part of the provenance. Galen130 private msg quote post Address this user
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@DrWatson Unless you’re married. 🤣🤣🤣

Even more so if you're married.


Dang…I must be doing something wrong. Time to submit to CGC and hope for fake 9.9’s and 10’s!!!


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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
It's the graders getting laid that gets you a 9.8 or a 10.
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I haven’t aired it out…it’s part of the provenance. Galen130 private msg quote post Address this user
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It's the graders getting laid that gets you a 9.8 or a 10.


Oh…I went the other way with this entire topic. I’ll shut up now. 🤣🤣


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Good one shaggy
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Somewhere, in this gullible world, there's that guy(s) out there who will claim there's a discernable difference between 9.8 & 9.9

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Well, there is... but there are also 9.8s that could pass for 9.9s. I never could tell the difference between a 9.9 and a 10.

I still think 9.9s and 10s are "marketing" grades.
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cgc graders: yup, 9.8..
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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Somewhere, in this gullible world, there's that guy(s) out there who will claim there's a discernable difference between 9.8 & 9.9

🙄😂🙄😂🙄😂

Well, there is... but there are also 9.8s that could pass for 9.9s. I never could tell the difference between a 9.9 and a 10.

I still think 9.9s and 10s are "marketing" grades.
I feel the same way. I have book in 9.9 and 9.8 that look exactly the same to me. The way I understand Gem Mint 10 is a book in immaculate condition free of any production damages perfectly aligned. Still it’s either mint or not
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....


that's the problem with all the different scandals...I get it..most employees and most submitters are above board..but just how many have not been and the seeming lack of guardrails makes one think there could be more....statistically there are only a fraction of a % of books affected - still doesn't leave one feeling great - especially if one of your books was affected.
For instance I know I only rarely pulled the reholder trick!!!
kidding - really??
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....


that's the problem with all the different scandals...I get it..most employees and most submitters are above board..but just how many have not been and the seeming lack of guardrails makes one think there could be more....statistically there are only a fraction of a % of books affected - still doesn't leave one feeling great - especially if one of your books was affected.
For instance I know I only rarely pulled the reholder trick!!!
kidding - really??


I have never pulled the reholder trick and not looking good for the foreseeable future. A good chunk of my cgc books are headed to Texas because God bless Texas!
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....

that's the problem with all the different scandals...I get it..most employees and most submitters are above board..but just how many have not been and the seeming lack of guardrails makes one think there could be more....statistically there are only a fraction of a % of books affected - still doesn't leave one feeling great - especially if one of your books was affected.
For instance I know I only rarely pulled the reholder trick!!!
kidding - really??


I have never pulled the reholder trick and not looking good for the foreseeable future. A good chunk of my cgc books are headed to Texas because God bless Texas!


lol..really..kidding...don't even own any non-standard labels....but for illustrative purposes...now everyone will have just that half second of doubt when looking at graded books.

As always though...buy the book not the grade!!
Many, many times over I've looked at a book and even though I thought the grade was appropriate I did not like the particular issues that drove it to have that grade (talking 7 to 8.5 range) there are so many different things in that range that you can pick and choose what book in that range looks nicest to you without being graded wrong!
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....

that's the problem with all the different scandals...I get it..most employees and most submitters are above board..but just how many have not been and the seeming lack of guardrails makes one think there could be more....statistically there are only a fraction of a % of books affected - still doesn't leave one feeling great - especially if one of your books was affected.
For instance I know I only rarely pulled the reholder trick!!!
kidding - really??


I have never pulled the reholder trick and not looking good for the foreseeable future. A good chunk of my cgc books are headed to Texas because God bless Texas!


lol..really..kidding...don't even onw any non-standard labels....but for illustrative purposes...now everyone will have just that half second of doubt when looking at graded books.

As always though...buy the book not the grade!!
Many, many times over I've looked at a book and even though I though the grade was appropriate I did not like the particular issues that drove it to have that grade (talking 7 to 8.5 range) there are so many different things in that range that you can pick and choose what book in that range looks nicest to you without being graded wrong!


Big facts my friend. 🍺🍺
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I like bean sprouts. James42 private msg quote post Address this user
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....


I doubt they are the first on either count, just the first we are aware of.
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So, we're these two employees the first to do it OR the first ones they caught??

Tonight, on unsolved mysteries.....


I doubt they are the first on either count, just the first we are aware of.


Winnah!!!
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
New Court filing yesterday in second fraud case. One in Florida for ex-employees, this one in New York for Comic Book Station employee who submitted (by his own declarations when submitting) over $4 million dollars in books to CGC.
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
@EbayMafia had to google it...seems like Comic Book Station is just a store yes? Would it be ok for a store to have those numbers??? or is this just 1 employees personal subs?
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
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It's already started with individuals attacking each other for comments made, but with a certain individual banned until the summer, the thread hasn't been locked yet.

They gave Roy a ban until summer?


You need to read the write-up of the incident and subsequent ban by the CGC Administrator. Great stuff.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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It's already started with individuals attacking each other for comments made, but with a certain individual banned until the summer, the thread hasn't been locked yet.

They gave Roy a ban until summer?


You need to read the write-up of the incident and subsequent ban by the CGC Administrator. Great stuff.

I can imagine. I've known Roy for years. I'm still amazed at some of his shenanigans.
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
I have to stop watching youtube.
There are some funny videos out there decrying why certain things aren't made public or weren't told to the collector community in the CGC interviews etc. ...I don't think the poster understands how companies and specifically companies who are owned either by private investment funds or by stock holders work or how legal proceedings work...but hey..gets clicks right?
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It's already started with individuals attacking each other for comments made, but with a certain individual banned until the summer, the thread hasn't been locked yet.

They gave Roy a ban until summer?


You need to read the write-up of the incident and subsequent ban by the CGC Administrator. Great stuff.

I can imagine. I've known Roy for years. I'm still amazed at some of his shenanigans.


He's usually pretty good with a basketball. Guess he crossed the foul line.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Anyone want to guess as to what the newest CGC scandal will be?
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
My guess? - Another instance(s) of books being swapped.

But some are still pushing it's just a insignificant percentage of individuals that can/would do this. Nothing to see here.
Just as is the case with raw book modifications....... go figure.

Somehow the "small percentage" is supposed to make it ok. It's not ok.

Fix the damn cases or commit to it... now... you incompetent idiots in FL
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Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?

For example, someone doing a swap on camera and demonstrating the lack of any detectable telltales with photos after?

We know that many, many people have sold swapped books over the years. Goes with the territory. But in every instance I’ve seen the swaps looked rough. Of course there is the issue of detectability itself. We may only see the failures. Someone may have perfected a technique and they happened to also be a criminal (hey, I imagine it will be primarily criminals practicing this stuff!)

It seems, however, that there is enough publicity incentive (and ad $) for the good guys to be motivated.

What CGC (and CBCS) should be doing is paying pros (in related fields) to attempt to bypass the case and successfully swap books. These testers would help them discover flaws and introduce improvements. Not sure if they do this. My guess is even if they did, it isn’t thoughtfully implemented.

Nevertheless, I’d love to see an example of a clean swap without the reholder loophole. I actually doubt most criminals considered the reholder path as it puts their criminal activity in plain view. It requires a level of incompetence at CGC that I think even most cynics were surprised by.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Forgive my overtly aggravation level. But I am really aggravated today.
I was just asked this weekend from a potential buyer "Are you the original owner of the slab"? "Any cracks or questionable markings on the case"?

Whether the answer to that question really helps assist what the buyer is poking around about is irrelevant. He/She asked it. That matters.

I really don't need to hear a question like that and I know why I was being asked that without asking why.

Reality is reality. But perception can also be reality and I don't need this perception being prevalent in the market
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?


There's the story of the former employees being sued, right? Book swapped with zero visible evidence.
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Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?


There's the story of the former employees being sued, right? Book swapped with zero visible evidence.


Lol, I think it’s a different issue when CGC is doing the encapsulating with fresh cases/materials etc. Yes, if they crack the case and they (CGC) put it into a new case it may be hard to spot the swap.

But I’d love to get an example of a successful swap (open, comic or label out, new comic or label back in, sealed) that leaves no visible evidence.

Okay, maybe I wouldn’t love to see an example… but I am interested if one actually exists. It would change the issue from a process one to a product one.

Of course a better product can help mitigate effects from a sloppy process…
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