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CGC’s latest buffoonery…20409

I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
My guess? - Another instance(s) of books being swapped.

But some are still pushing it's just a insignificant percentage of individuals that can/would do this. Nothing to see here.
Just as is the case with raw book modifications....... go figure.

Somehow the "small percentage" is supposed to make it ok. It's not ok.

Fix the damn cases or commit to it... now... you incompetent idiots in FL
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" . " Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?

For example, someone doing a swap on camera and demonstrating the lack of any detectable telltales with photos after?

We know that many, many people have sold swapped books over the years. Goes with the territory. But in every instance I’ve seen the swaps looked rough. Of course there is the issue of detectability itself. We may only see the failures. Someone may have perfected a technique and they happened to also be a criminal (hey, I imagine it will be primarily criminals practicing this stuff!)

It seems, however, that there is enough publicity incentive (and ad $) for the good guys to be motivated.

What CGC (and CBCS) should be doing is paying pros (in related fields) to attempt to bypass the case and successfully swap books. These testers would help them discover flaws and introduce improvements. Not sure if they do this. My guess is even if they did, it isn’t thoughtfully implemented.

Nevertheless, I’d love to see an example of a clean swap without the reholder loophole. I actually doubt most criminals considered the reholder path as it puts their criminal activity in plain view. It requires a level of incompetence at CGC that I think even most cynics were surprised by.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Forgive my overtly aggravation level. But I am really aggravated today.
I was just asked this weekend from a potential buyer "Are you the original owner of the slab"? "Any cracks or questionable markings on the case"?

Whether the answer to that question really helps assist what the buyer is poking around about is irrelevant. He/She asked it. That matters.

I really don't need to hear a question like that and I know why I was being asked that without asking why.

Reality is reality. But perception can also be reality and I don't need this perception being prevalent in the market
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?


There's the story of the former employees being sued, right? Book swapped with zero visible evidence.
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?


There's the story of the former employees being sued, right? Book swapped with zero visible evidence.


Lol, I think it’s a different issue when CGC is doing the encapsulating with fresh cases/materials etc. Yes, if they crack the case and they (CGC) put it into a new case it may be hard to spot the swap.

But I’d love to get an example of a successful swap (open, comic or label out, new comic or label back in, sealed) that leaves no visible evidence.

Okay, maybe I wouldn’t love to see an example… but I am interested if one actually exists. It would change the issue from a process one to a product one.

Of course a better product can help mitigate effects from a sloppy process…
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
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Originally Posted by xkonk
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
Has anyone found an example of a case where the book was swapped (not reholdered by CGC) and with zero visible evidence?


There's the story of the former employees being sued, right? Book swapped with zero visible evidence.


Lol, I think it’s a different issue when CGC is doing the encapsulating with fresh cases/materials etc. Yes, if they crack the case and they (CGC) put it into a new case it may be hard to spot the swap.

But I’d love to get an example of a successful swap (open, comic or label out, new comic or label back in, sealed) that leaves no visible evidence.

Okay, maybe I wouldn’t love to see an example… but I am interested if one actually exists. It would change the issue from a process one to a product one.

Of course a better product can help mitigate effects from a sloppy process…


I know what you are saying, and I agree. Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that CGC needs to design a new case. But the case alone hasn't yet been proven to be something that can be exploited without assistance (knowingly or unwittingly) from inside the building.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
I've certainly never tried; nor would I. Other than youtubers looking for clicks, I don't think anyone would admit to trying on social media.

To do so might be sellers suicide.

This is the kind of shat that folks will keep on the down low and only speak about in the shadows one-on-one with trusted confidants

Youtubers looks for clicks.
Criminals don't let on about their business.
Honest people don't even try; they just think what if & talk endlessly about it because they're concerned.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
My next question is this; did this happen at any major conventions??

CGC has a presence at every major con in the country and it might be the perfect setting for a whoops! wrong book!

I could be wrong but it's worst case scenario
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I like bean sprouts. James42 private msg quote post Address this user
Just waiting for the flood of 9.9 books; justifiable or not, it's going to be a bad look.
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