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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by PhilCoulson
I personally have very few graded myself because I don't really like the process, but I purchase graded comics often. The many reasons have been mentioned already but the initial reason I began collecting slabs is due to the inexact science of grading by seller and buyer. I don't like the unknown nor the bickering that can come from it.

Seller: this is a NM copy
Buyer: this is a VF copy or did you see the stain on the back or did you see the loose staple or etc.


My reasons are similar. Third party grading minimizes uncertainty. Minimizing uncertainty increases liquidity, liquidity has value.
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We should have the forum rate our packages. HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user
I’m out of practice right now but for a long time I got books graded to get lab results.
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Collector JazzyJeffie private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
With the recent (in my opinion) price resistance to graded books, I'm starting to wonder why I'm still getting them graded.

I can sell a raw book that someone thinks is a 9.8 for more than a book graded at 9.6 that should be a 9.8. 🤷‍♂️

So much is freaking upside down & broken in this hobby


It can also go the other way. I've experienced some haggler saying "oh, it's raw and ungraded, so our grade opinions don't matter unless CBCS/CGC slab this".

He lost that transaction and I sold to a more reasonable co-hobbyist.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
Resale is the only reason I ever have a book graded

Slabs take up WAY to much storage space and there are just to many other options that are much more cost efficient and offer just as good or better protection for any books I dont plan on selling.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
At first I was against slabbing for the simple reason cost, you can't enjoy the pleasure of reading the comic book and all you get to see is the front and back cover.

Then, I bought my first slab and saw the value in it. Now, I'm slabbing my collection and buying upgraded slabs to replace parts of my collection.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
I originally started grading books because I wanted to know what I had in hand so that I could know what should be upgraded some day. Now I mostly do it to help establish price and make things easier for if my family has to sell things instead of me.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
The simplest reason I have books graded is because I want to get them graded, especially the Star Wars Action Figure books. I have zero interest in the story. I buy them for the covers only and I don't want them damaged or eaten by insects, such as silverfish.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
I first starting slabbing comics because I wanted to have a verified keepsake of meeting the talent that created the comics. After I started collecting Original Art I thought I'm gonna slab all of my expensive comics in order to sell them and buy more art but once those got back from slabbing they looked to nice to sell. Atm I keep slabbing any book worth over $100 for ease of resale when I decide to sell them or if I pass out then my family will more easily be able to sell them at auction houses or to private collectors.
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Originally Posted by HeinzDad
I’m out of practice right now but for a long time I got books graded to get lab results.


like paying to get a report card that you can resell if you chose. I like it, double utility.
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Staple topics, nice. makahuka private msg quote post Address this user
Interestingly, I see people submitting for grades without encapsulation. I keep an eye out to see how this non-encapsulation graded books go.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
I have nothing better to do with my time and or money.

No seriously, I like slabbed bboks;period. I like the way they look, I like to see the grades and I think it's cool. 👍🍺
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I'm not a plagiarist. I'm also not illiterate. drmccoy74 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by JazzyJeffie
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
With the recent (in my opinion) price resistance to graded books, I'm starting to wonder why I'm still getting them graded.

I can sell a raw book that someone thinks is a 9.8 for more than a book graded at 9.6 that should be a 9.8. 🤷‍♂️

So much is freaking upside down & broken in this hobby


It can also go the other way. I've experienced some haggler saying "oh, it's raw and ungraded, so our grade opinions don't matter unless CBCS/CGC slab this".

He lost that transaction and I sold to a more reasonable co-hobbyist.

No doubt. As you should have but alot of comic book collectors aren't good at grading raw comics. I agree with you though. If it's an in person transaction a raw 9.0 is the same as a graded 9.0. You shouldn't get a discount because hopefully your buying a comic and not a graded slab.
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I like bean sprouts. James42 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by drmccoy74
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Originally Posted by JazzyJeffie
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
With the recent (in my opinion) price resistance to graded books, I'm starting to wonder why I'm still getting them graded.

I can sell a raw book that someone thinks is a 9.8 for more than a book graded at 9.6 that should be a 9.8. 🤷‍♂️

So much is freaking upside down & broken in this hobby


It can also go the other way. I've experienced some haggler saying "oh, it's raw and ungraded, so our grade opinions don't matter unless CBCS/CGC slab this".

He lost that transaction and I sold to a more reasonable co-hobbyist.

No doubt. As you should have but alot of comic book collectors aren't good at grading raw comics. I agree with you though. If it's an in person transaction a raw 9.0 is the same as a graded 9.0. You shouldn't get a discount because hopefully your buying a comic and not a graded slab.


Except when you buy a slab, you are (theoretically) purchasing a more liquid asset than a raw book. Liquidity is an expression of how quickly an asset can be turned into cash (sold) without affecting the item's market price. That liquidity has a value beyond that of the book itself. How much value is debatable, but as long as the guarantor can be trusted, it's there. That's the real reason PGX books sell for less than CGC or CBCS. Because the informed public does not trust PGX's guarantee, the owner has to discount the item to compensate. Whether we will see a similar collapse or mass discount of CGC slabs is still unknown.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I would be more concerned over the label swapping/reholder scandal as opposed to a pair of employees getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar, but that's just me.

That's using their system and products against them. It's like being shot with your own gun.
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I'm not a plagiarist. I'm also not illiterate. drmccoy74 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by James42
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Originally Posted by drmccoy74
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Originally Posted by JazzyJeffie
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
With the recent (in my opinion) price resistance to graded books, I'm starting to wonder why I'm still getting them graded.

I can sell a raw book that someone thinks is a 9.8 for more than a book graded at 9.6 that should be a 9.8. 🤷‍♂️

So much is freaking upside down & broken in this hobby


It can also go the other way. I've experienced some haggler saying "oh, it's raw and ungraded, so our grade opinions don't matter unless CBCS/CGC slab this".

He lost that transaction and I sold to a more reasonable co-hobbyist.

No doubt. As you should have but alot of comic book collectors aren't good at grading raw comics. I agree with you though. If it's an in person transaction a raw 9.0 is the same as a graded 9.0. You shouldn't get a discount because hopefully your buying a comic and not a graded slab.


Except when you buy a slab, you are (theoretically) purchasing a more liquid asset than a raw book. Liquidity is an expression of how quickly an asset can be turned into cash (sold) without affecting the item's market price. That liquidity has a value beyond that of the book itself. How much value is debatable, but as long as the guarantor can be trusted, it's there. That's the real reason PGX books sell for less than CGC or CBCS. Because the informed public does not trust PGX's guarantee, the owner has to discount the item to compensate. Whether we will see a similar collapse or mass discount of CGC slabs is still unknown.
A graded comic may sell faster than a raw comic in most cases. That's not the point. If I go to my local comic book store tomorrow and buy a Crow 1 in a 9.2 I'm not going to ask them to knock off 200 bucks because it's raw. Just like they don't charge me 200 more because it's stabbed.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
Started off slabbing some of my childhood collection, got distracted along the way by trying to slab to flip, and am now focused on collecting lower value comics that aren't worth the cost of slabbing. The Wolverine #1 was part of my first Cbcs submission and the most I ever paid for a comic until I became an adult.


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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
I forgot slab for preservation - but that's mainly gold age and I don't have many of those...but they are on the 'get graded shelf' if an appropriate discount comes along or if I find myself with funds for grading and I can drop off at a convention.
Silver and 'modern' can stay in boxes unless I'm going to sell right now or it's a 'key' I want to keep but for my family to sell later

maybe the odd sentimental comic?

a press and a grade ain't cheap and other things quite easily take priority - some of my books I remember getting at summer camp as a kid so 40 odd years ago - they've done quite well in boxes and can continue to do so if needed
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
At conventions, it increases my swagger and sex appeal to walk around with a slab under each arm.
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
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At conventions, it increases my swagger and sex appeal to walk around with a slab under each arm.



Nope

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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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Hello forum members,

I want to thank everyone who participated in my last post. The feedback provided was valuable and will help CBCS continue to grow and improve. Please continue to post there as you see fit, we will continue to monitor it! Again, if there is a question or suggestion I can give clarity on, I will do my best.

For this post, I wanted to go in a different direction... I am curious about why you personally use comic book grading services. Is it to achieve maximum value for resale purposes? Do you get your collection graded to preserve condition as best as possible? Display Purposes? Or, do you have another reason? Let me know below!

ALSO, if you have never had a comic graded before, why not?


I've only subbed around 7 books and a couple CPRs. I don't sell comics yet, and slabbing what I had made it difficult to buy the comics I still wanted, so it came down to getting the runs filled and then deal with slabbing, or slab what I had and get the rest later. Considering the monstrous price hikes since covid, I'm very glad I chose getting the books first.

Now I'm thinking of selling off some of my collection, and having some of it graded would certainly help, but with the 'in transit' horror stories and CGC-CBCS problems (95%-5%), I think it's best to just send them to MCS. Except the big $$$ books maybe. I'd like to think the biggies (AF15, FF1, 48-50, etc.) will still be worth good money in my golden years, if they're not made illegal or some other goofiness.
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At conventions, it increases my swagger and sex appeal to walk around with a slab under each arm.
@DrWatson That’s actually how I met my wife.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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At conventions, it increases my swagger and sex appeal to walk around with a slab under each arm.
@DrWatson That’s actually how I met my wife.

I'm not sure whose heart needs blessed, yours or hers.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
I slab for preservation, for signature verification. To verify no restoration and such on expensive books. I also always grade a few to sell to pay for the cost of grading.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
I think everyone here has a high end comic book or two and the best way to preserve the grade and value is getting them graded. My INCREDIBLE HULK #102 (CBCS 9.6), my AVENGERS #1 (CBCS 7.0) and CAPTAIN AMERICA #102 (CBCS 9.4), just to name a few. Keeping them bag and boarded just don't guarantee much. This is another reason for slabbing.
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Collector chefcomics private msg quote post Address this user
i graded to sell period........
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