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Why do you get books graded?20406

CBCS Finalizer Wade_Story private msg quote post Address this user
Hello forum members,

I want to thank everyone who participated in my last post. The feedback provided was valuable and will help CBCS continue to grow and improve. Please continue to post there as you see fit, we will continue to monitor it! Again, if there is a question or suggestion I can give clarity on, I will do my best.

For this post, I wanted to go in a different direction... I am curious about why you personally use comic book grading services. Is it to achieve maximum value for resale purposes? Do you get your collection graded to preserve condition as best as possible? Display Purposes? Or, do you have another reason? Let me know below!

ALSO, if you have never had a comic graded before, why not?
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CBCS Finalizer Wade_Story private msg quote post Address this user
As for myself, I get my collection graded for a number of reasons. If a book is special to me, or fragile, I will get it graded to make sure the current condition is preserved. For those books that meet a certain value threshold, I get those graded so that if something were to happen, hopefully my family would be able to ensure proper value return (a grade makes the $ research easier in my opinion).
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Staple topics, nice. makahuka private msg quote post Address this user
@Wade_Story Much like you kind sir. I like how the books are protected, some are for value for my family to deal with later on, and some because they look great and it's having a frame/encasing to show off awesome books.
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Collector JoshS2 private msg quote post Address this user
also for the reasons you mentioned - if it's a book I love and plan to keep in my collection (or pass down) I want to preserve it & if it's a book that's valuable but I'm not attached to, having a book graded helps with resale
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Accurate assessment of book.
Book will be easier to sell slabbed.
Sales values more accurately realized.
Protection of book.
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HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user
The titillating anticipation and suspense...
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
Some of the older members here on my forum know my backstory. But, to nutshell it, after a couple of unfortunate incidents that damaged some comics including a prized possession, and after much investigation and tests, I decided to get my comics certified and encapsulated by CBCS.

1st and foremost, for protection.

2nd, certification of grades/condition. I am not a professional grader, but I am a financial planner. And, from the standpoint of planning for the future, by having my collection already certified, my heirs should have an easier time valuing and deciding what to do with it after I force ghost.

3rd, make it easier and less contentious to sell comics now. In making my decision to encase my permanent collection, I also decided to sell off about 2/3 of the entire collection in order to offset the cost of the certification and encasement endeavor. By selling only certified comics, I wouldn't have to deal with disagreements of grades and returns. Further, there would be more certainty of value and realization of profit to offset the costs of the endeavor.

4th, kinda goes back to the 1st, but ability to safely display or handle the comic.

And, by the way for those not in the know, the tipping point for me was when my bagged and boarded Marvel Fanfare #1 (which was personally signed for my by Michael Golden back in 1982) got bent in half across the entire to 1/4 of the comic and looked like a hockey stick. After my earlier stated investigations and research I sent it to CBCS and @SteveRicketts for pressing and certification. He miracle worked it back to a 9.6 condition. I wish he had a Before & After of it.
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CBCS Pressing SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user
@Scifinator What's funny is that after I pulled that book out of the press I wished I had taken a before photo of it.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@SteveRicketts - and the same here, once I got it back, I wished I had snapped a photo before I sent it. Well, I do still have the vision in my brain, so maybe I can download when I get my Musk implant.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
Pays the rent
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I get my books graded because I want to be hip with the in-crowd. Without graded books I wouldn't have been able to rub shoulders with the likes of lawguy1977, GAC, KatKomics, and Flanders.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
This must have come up before but I guess I forgot that Steve Borock did it voluntarily - are CBCS employees allowed to get their books graded? How do you avoid conflict of interest, or the appearance thereof?
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CBCS Finalizer Wade_Story private msg quote post Address this user
@xkonk Yes, employees can have books graded. We are not allowed to play any role in our own orders, they can't touch our hands once submitted. There is a lot of care taken to ensure this does not occur. Additionally, we are not allowed to sell anything we have graded in a CBCS case. This is part of the agreement when hired on for CBCS.

I have multiple books from both companies. Due to my position, I can only profit from anything in a CGC case.
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Collector SidTheSquid private msg quote post Address this user
All the same reasons everyone else has said (though I'm doing less and less to resell).

I would add, I like being able to let "non-collector" friends hold a book and show it off without sweating bullets that it'll get bent.

I also love looking forward to getting something in the mail.
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I like bean sprouts. James42 private msg quote post Address this user
The primary reasons I slab books (or buy slabs) are for estate planning and display. I have a section of wall on an interior hallway where I rotate graded books, either as a holiday theme or as the mood strikes. Currently, it's Valentine's Day themed.




Slabs really are the best way to display books in this fashion, I think. I used to have a wall in my apartment before I got married that was all slabs (hung with 3M Command strips) and framed production art.

So I buy a lot of modern slabs with cover art I like. Those tend to be CGC, because that's what flippers have. I prefer the CBCS slabs because they are clearer.

Edited to add:

I am gradually getting more and more of my raw collection graded by CBCS because I can get signatures authenticated that I have collected over the years. It will definitely make it easier for any of my heirs to liquidate unwanted stock.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrWatson
I get my books graded because I want to be hip with the in-crowd. Without graded books I wouldn't have been able to rub shoulders with the likes of lawguy1977, GAC, KatKomics, and Flanders.


Agreed!! The good @DrWatson makes a very good point....slabbing creates a union of like minded collectors. 🍻
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I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet! Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user
@Wade_Story I like to see how good I am at grading also to protect them. If something happened to me my family will know the grade and they can easily look them up and see what they are worth. Plus it’s fun to be part of the CBCS boards and the great people on the boards and who work for CBCS.
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself. lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user
Agree with all the reasons above. I like having books graded for display purposes and for preservation. I like having them graded to sell (usually to buy other books) or to make it easier for my heirs to sell some day. And I definitely like seeing how my personal grade compares to the professionals.

And finally, like @DrWatson and @GAC, it's a great community to be a part of and share in.
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Pretty sure the Thing and my wife aren't the same height. PhilCoulson private msg quote post Address this user
I personally have very few graded myself because I don't really like the process, but I purchase graded comics often. The many reasons have been mentioned already but the initial reason I began collecting slabs is due to the inexact science of grading by seller and buyer. I don't like the unknown nor the bickering that can come from it.

Seller: this is a NM copy
Buyer: this is a VF copy or did you see the stain on the back or did you see the loose staple or etc.
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CBCS Finalizer Wade_Story private msg quote post Address this user
@PhilCoulson the buyer seller relationship is definitely one of the biggest reasons grading companies were created. It’s what 3rd party grading should be all about, making it easier to agree on conditions/take guess work out.
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Apparently, I am easily annoyed. Rbolton private msg quote post Address this user
In the same boat as most everyone else, a mixture of personal collection and resale.
And this Quote:
Originally Posted by HAmistoso
The titillating anticipation and suspense...
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
#1- preservation; be it just a cool book, sentiment, or investment for future sale if/when they need to go.

#2- I don’t mind taking advantage of 9.8 FOMO.

#3 the occasional flip to pay for a sub of keepers.
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Collector JazzyJeffie private msg quote post Address this user
For me, answers are aligned with the majority.

I'd like them slabbed & graded to make it easy for my family to sell/resell my comic books when I hit the bucket. I don't want some buyer haggling them over a raw comic book's actual grade, while they're mourning for me.

For me, grading stops further damage (or at least lessen the possibility of further damage) to a raw comic book.

They also are easier to display standing up or hung on the wall vs. a raw comic book.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
Signed/sketched Books - witnessed or verified

Ease of selling :
a) in the immediate future to help raise funds for 'big' books
b) in the future, future - when I downsize my collection or for the family after I'm gone
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
With the recent (in my opinion) price resistance to graded books, I'm starting to wonder why I'm still getting them graded.

I can sell a raw book that someone thinks is a 9.8 for more than a book graded at 9.6 that should be a 9.8. 🤷‍♂️

So much is freaking upside down & broken in this hobby
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilCoulson
I personally have very few graded myself because I don't really like the process, but I purchase graded comics often. The many reasons have been mentioned already but the initial reason I began collecting slabs is due to the inexact science of grading by seller and buyer. I don't like the unknown nor the bickering that can come from it.

Seller: this is a NM copy
Buyer: this is a VF copy or did you see the stain on the back or did you see the loose staple or etc.


My reasons are similar. Third party grading minimizes uncertainty. Minimizing uncertainty increases liquidity, liquidity has value.
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We should have the forum rate our packages. HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user
I’m out of practice right now but for a long time I got books graded to get lab results.
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Collector JazzyJeffie private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
With the recent (in my opinion) price resistance to graded books, I'm starting to wonder why I'm still getting them graded.

I can sell a raw book that someone thinks is a 9.8 for more than a book graded at 9.6 that should be a 9.8. 🤷‍♂️

So much is freaking upside down & broken in this hobby


It can also go the other way. I've experienced some haggler saying "oh, it's raw and ungraded, so our grade opinions don't matter unless CBCS/CGC slab this".

He lost that transaction and I sold to a more reasonable co-hobbyist.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
Resale is the only reason I ever have a book graded

Slabs take up WAY to much storage space and there are just to many other options that are much more cost efficient and offer just as good or better protection for any books I dont plan on selling.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
At first I was against slabbing for the simple reason cost, you can't enjoy the pleasure of reading the comic book and all you get to see is the front and back cover.

Then, I bought my first slab and saw the value in it. Now, I'm slabbing my collection and buying upgraded slabs to replace parts of my collection.
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