Stop boards, just go with bags, what do you think?20303
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Started to collect comics for 1 years now, always having something who annoy me... i have the feeling that i do not need to put all this stuff in these freaking bags and boards who take so much place... and i reflected many times to go only with bags. I have near of 1000 books and 900 of them are boarded, but i have purchased 100 issues of superman which was in bags, grouped by 5 or 7, and that i didnt moved to boards, and these ones seems perfect like that. I add a picture > here you can see a few drawer who can easily contain like 100 books or more this way. What do you think? Are bags and board absolutely necessary for you? What happen when you are a runner and that you will never stop to buy books, how did you put these freaking bags and board when you will have 20000 comics? I have the feeling that is making me prisoner of something and i didnt like that i think. Why just not reserve 1 and only 1 box for bags and board with your most valuable books and stock the others this way? |
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I have many older comics that are in bags only with no boards. However, I do not have anywhere near 20,000 comics... only 3500 or so. I have no desire to own 20,000 comics.  Just understand that the backing boards provide more protection than bags alone. Books without boards can get bent and creased more easily than those with boards. As long as you know that and are good with that then store your books in the manner that best suits your needs. |
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| Thanks for your reply! I hope to have 20 000 a day  One year ago i started to collect with the goal to complet the entire runs of the 7 jla members between 1987-2011. Now im near to have complet it, im going to look for other charachters, teams and also vertigo stuff, im just focused on this timeline, so it can be funny to calculate how much books were publicated by DC during these 24 years because i dont want all of them but probably 90%... |
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| When I started collecting more seriously around 1980 (yes, I am old) and tried to put together runs, I would place two books in each bag without a board between them. I would have the odd-numbered book on the front, and the even-numbered book on the back. I figured by having them back-to-back, they would support each other and the configuration would help prevent spine roll. Also, you could see both front covers. I placed all my books upright in cardboard boxes. Before I found mass-produced long and short boxes, I found that a sturdy box from a local company perfectly fit about 250 books stored this way. Before long, I had over 30 of these boxes full of comics. By the late 1980’s, I pretty much stopped buying comics and left a lot of my books that way for years (some of the books I bought in the mid-1980’s did come in bags with boards). When I started collecting again around ten or 15 years ago, I submitted a bunch of books that had been stored for decades without boards. Some (not all) received 9.6’s and 9.8’s, so the lack of a board didn’t bother them. Nowadays, when I pick up a decent book, I always put them in a new clean bag and board. And if the book is valuable, I will probably put it in a Mylite with a fullback (looks great and never yellows). I have replaced the majority of those old bags (they do turn yellow) and put my books in new bags with boards. But if you are careful and keep your books in safe containers at comfortable temperatures, they should be okay. |
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| I couldn’t do bag only. I’d never sleep wondering if I bent a spine putting a book away. Mylar and EGerber backs. 1 and done archival for me. 1 at a time or it does get overwhelming bagging and boarding 100s at a time. Plus a lot of what I buy is already bagged n boarded with no immediate need to switch to Mylar. |
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 Staple topics, nice.
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| I have friends that collect comics, they are also readers. I've learned that if there's a book I like, I don't let them handle it or even show them. I found out early, in the 70s-80's, that some of those books were jacked up from sharing with my friends, bagged or bags and boards. As my collection grew, I let the wife handle them and help me move them, my fault, because I didn't explain to her some of the ideas behind collecting comic books and other collectibles. My kids had a pretty good childhood at the cost of my own negligence. Reader books get boxed, sometimes I try to alternate spines, some are bagged, and some are some get bags and boards. Haven't stopped collecting, just a little more careful now. | ||
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| A bag is better than no bag right. | ||
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| I did bags only when I was starting out and would only use boards on the more expensive books. Since I loved taking my books out to looks at the covers, I never gave it any time to do much damage to the books. I came across a collection that had bagged books, no boards. The collection had been sitting for some time and when I looked through the books, the bags practically melted to one another and created a big curl on almost all of the books which also did some damage. If you're just starting out, I'd suggest you spend money on decent bag and boards to protect the condition of your more expensive books. I wouldn't worry too much on dollar books. |
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| Im not a begginer, im just a guy who want to get more and more and more comics... and there is a time where bags and boards becomes a problem in term of storage | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Optic_Blast What do you mean by melted to one another? If the bags was stand up straight its a logic end i think... |
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| @Jr1776 I would recommend ordering from Matt's Baseball for your bags & boards. I like their products and the price is great. I use Mylite 2 or 4 with half or full backs from Egerber on my more expensive books. I also buy them in bulk and get them at a very reasonable price that way. |
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| @BrianGreensnips Is a phone call still required to order directly from EGerber? No website ordering? | ||
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| Thanks however if you read my post you will understand that its not really the preocupation... I have all the bags and board i need. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967Yes, a call is still required for Egerber and they require a $100 minimum total purchase. |
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| @BrianGreensnips Thanks | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jr1776 To answer your question better, I try to bag and board almost every book especially with how expensive they have gotten. I still have a pull list at my LCS and I need to board about 100 books from my pull list still. I luckily have plenty of space to store close to 10,000 comic books. Besides my current pull list comics, everything else is bagged and boarded and that gives me comfort. |
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| WAR IS BEGIN! Goal of the week end, move at least 500 comics into bags! Look the last pics, a stack of 15 comics not even reach the half of my finger! We re going to make EXTRA room!    |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jr1776 The cheap "poly" bags (polypropylene and polyethylene) age over time and are NOT friendly to comics irrelevant of whether or not there is a board. IF you're going to do bags only make damn sure they are 100% mylar, otherwise the scenario described by @Optic_Blast is a certainty. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by figment I didnt really understood his "scenario" My english is not really good... so what he meant exept that the books folded? If its the only things which is happened is more a question of "how do you store the bags, their positions... And what could happen if books are stacked horinzotaly on great quantity? |
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| As poly bags age and soften they often ripple and get sort of stuck together. The ripple can transfer to the comic literally causing the cover paper to distort in the same wavy pattern. For this reason poly bags must be changed every few years, a problem that mylar does not have. | ||
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| If you decide to lay them flat in a drawer, you may want to alternate how you put them in. Cover up-cover down. (Spine on the left, spine on the right.) Keep them as flat as possible to prevent them from curling. Here is a good article with some great information: clickable text Take advantage of the new technology for storing your books for the long term. If I could digress for a moment, when I started collecting back in the 1970s, I would cut up cardboard for a backer and then use produce bags from the grocery store to put my books in. For storage, I would line milk crates with cardboard and keep them stored upright. It was difficult to purchase comic books in pristine condition because they were mostly sold from a spinner rack. Good luck and above all, enjoy the hobby!  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jr1776 The bags will begin to stick to one another after a while especially if they're stored and never flipped through. The bags don't just stand up straight. The books will start to sag, unless the books are super tight in the boxes. If the bags start to stick to one another, then they'll all sag after a while. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jr1776 Based on your questions, it does sound like you're a beginner. Do it right the first time so you won't have regrets later. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Optic_Blast What happen if the bags start to stick between them? |
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| Proper sized bags and boards all day. You can place them face to face when boxing as an extra protection against warping. I usually use mylars and fullbacks but during the thing that shan't be named for fear of suspension I started buying from Comic Pro Line. Their mylars aren't the best, but I found that I liked the 28 point boards and their OPP bags have a nice feel. Thus far, I haven't noticed warping or rippling. Time will tell. Any poly bags I've purchased from BCW, Southern Hobby, etc kinda suck. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jr1776 Invest in mylites or mylars. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Optic_Blast What they are saying is the regular Poly bags are going to wear out. They are expected to last about 5 years. They may last longer without damaging books. The recommended change is 5 years. Mylar has an indefinite life span. All Mylar bags are good. EGerber Mylites have a UV resistant additive good for books exposed to light. Mylar Bags are stiffer and would add extra protection vs poly bags alone. You would likely need a size up to fit the same amount of books per bag because they do not have the flexibility of poly bags. I hope that helps with the language differences. |
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| If you're intent on bagging multiple books into one bag, then why not just buy magazine bags. You'll be able to fit quite a bit in those bags. | ||
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