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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
I recently watched some content on the macroeconomics of the collectables market. Though I felt most of it was misinformation, fair points about the future of comics as investment-grade vehicles were made.

Do you experts think the bias toward 9.8s prices the 10-16 year old demographic out of graded comics?

If granny slipped me a 50 with my birthday card, what makes a graded comic attractive to me over literally anything else?

My granny is old. She still sends cash. So much better.
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Why would a 10-16 year old want slabbed comics? And I buy graded books all the time in the $10-40 range.
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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Why would a 10-16 year old want slabbed comics? And I buy graded books all the time in the $10-40 range.


I never read them, personally. If there'd been graded comics when I started collecting, I would've opted for those if the pricing made sense.

These types of people exist. The artwork and investment potential were way more important to me than the writing.
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I think comic specific stores i.e. not in corner stores as a larger barrier to any youth wanting comics in general and the current cover prices

If you need to be driven to another town just to browse and then it will cost you a half hours pay from the job you likely don't have is a major problem.

When I was young the newspaper store in town also sold comics and my job stocking shelves etc. that payed $2.95 per hour meant I could but almost 3 comics for ever hour I worked!!! They may not have had a massive selection at the stand but it certainly meant I could "enter the market" at least.

In Canada our minimum wage is like $14 now - there are no comics within a 30km radius (19 miles) and most comics cost close to $5 a pop

I don't believe many youth are considering the investment potential of comics.

Would be interesting to see the demographics of current publication consumers - I have the feeling that it trends old and any investment potential is declining
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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If granny slipped me a 50 with my birthday card, what makes a graded comic attractive to me over literally anything else?


I'd answer that nothing makes a graded comic attractive to [you] over literally anything else unless you like comics. If you are just looking for investment potential there are many investments that will probably produce a better return than graded comics especially those currently costing $10 to $40.
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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I think comic specific stores i.e. not in corner stores as a larger barrier to any youth wanting comics in general and the current cover prices

If you need to be driven to another town just to browse and then it will cost you a half hours pay from the job you likely don't have is a major problem.

When I was young the newspaper store in town also sold comics and my job stocking shelves etc. that payed $2.95 per hour meant I could but almost 3 comics for ever hour I worked!!! They may not have had a massive selection at the stand but it certainly meant I could "enter the market" at least.

In Canada our minimum wage is like $14 now - there are no comics within a 30km radius (19 miles) and most comics cost close to $5 a pop

I don't believe many youth are considering the investment potential of comics.

Would be interesting to see the demographics of current publication consumers - I have the feeling that it trends old and any investment potential is declining


Well, check it out, player. I'm going to cut you in on a marketing idea the likes of which would've already made me a millionaire--had the government not chosen to steal them and therefore become an international embarrassment instead.

What if your infantile self could be gifted a subscription that included slabbed exclusives that came with a coverless reader copy?

It's never too early to plan for your future!
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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I think comic specific stores i.e. not in corner stores as a larger barrier to any youth wanting comics in general and the current cover prices

If you need to be driven to another town just to browse and then it will cost you a half hours pay from the job you likely don't have is a major problem.

When I was young the newspaper store in town also sold comics and my job stocking shelves etc. that payed $2.95 per hour meant I could but almost 3 comics for ever hour I worked!!! They may not have had a massive selection at the stand but it certainly meant I could "enter the market" at least.

In Canada our minimum wage is like $14 now - there are no comics within a 30km radius (19 miles) and most comics cost close to $5 a pop

I don't believe many youth are considering the investment potential of comics.

Would be interesting to see the demographics of current publication consumers - I have the feeling that it trends old and any investment potential is declining


Well, check it out, player. I'm going to cut you in on a marketing idea the likes of which would've already made me a millionaire--had the government not chosen to steal them and therefore become an international embarrassment instead.

What if your infantile self could be gifted a subscription that included slabbed exclusives that came with a coverless reader copy?

It's never too early to plan for your future!
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I think comic specific stores i.e. not in corner stores as a larger barrier to any youth wanting comics in general and the current cover prices

If you need to be driven to another town just to browse and then it will cost you a half hours pay from the job you likely don't have is a major problem.

When I was young the newspaper store in town also sold comics and my job stocking shelves etc. that payed $2.95 per hour meant I could but almost 3 comics for ever hour I worked!!! They may not have had a massive selection at the stand but it certainly meant I could "enter the market" at least.

In Canada our minimum wage is like $14 now - there are no comics within a 30km radius (19 miles) and most comics cost close to $5 a pop

I don't believe many youth are considering the investment potential of comics.

Would be interesting to see the demographics of current publication consumers - I have the feeling that it trends old and any investment potential is declining


Well, check it out, player. I'm going to cut you in on a marketing idea the likes of which would've already made me a millionaire--had the government not chosen to steal them and therefore become an international embarrassment instead.

What if your infantile self could be gifted a subscription that included slabbed exclusives that came with a coverless reader copy?

It's never too early to plan for your future! This idea shouldn't be considered investment advice. All investments carry an element of risk.
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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If granny slipped me a 50 with my birthday card, what makes a graded comic attractive to me over literally anything else?


I'd answer that nothing makes a graded comic attractive to [you] over literally anything else unless you like comics. If you are just looking for investment potential there are many investments that will probably produce a better return than graded comics especially those currently costing $10 to $40.

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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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Do you experts think the bias toward 9.8s prices the 10-16 year old demographic out of graded comics?


I don't think the 9.8 bias has any impact on their involvement.
Speaking of Utes, I'm very interested to see what happens in 2024 with Swifties and Dazzler. We may just get a case study to learn from. My prediction:
1) Grade won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
2) Slabs won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
3) X-men 130 might not be all that important to Swifties, they will probably be more inclined to pick up Dazzler #1 as well as other Dazzler back issues.
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Do you experts think the bias toward 9.8s prices the 10-16 year old demographic out of graded comics?


I don't think the 9.8 bias has any impact on their involvement.
Speaking of Utes, I'm very interested to see what happens in 2024 with Swifties and Dazzler. We may just get a case study to learn from. My prediction:
1) Grade won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
2) Slabs won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
3) X-men 130 might not be all that important to Swifties, they will probably be more inclined to pick up Dazzler #1 as well as other Dazzler back issues.


She’ll likely just reissue an album and include a reprint with it. All her fans will focus on buying that instead of an old comic. Anything to send her more $$$.
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Do you experts think the bias toward 9.8s prices the 10-16 year old demographic out of graded comics?


I don't think the 9.8 bias has any impact on their involvement.
Speaking of Utes, I'm very interested to see what happens in 2024 with Swifties and Dazzler. We may just get a case study to learn from. My prediction:
1) Grade won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
2) Slabs won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
3) X-men 130 might not be all that important to Swifties, they will probably be more inclined to pick up Dazzler #1 as well as other Dazzler back issues.


She’ll likely just reissue an album and include a reprint with it. All her fans will focus on buying that instead of an old comic. Anything to send her more $$$.


What's a "Swiftie?"
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
If the kid gets $50, tell them to do this;
Take your $50 and go to a comic con. At the end offer $50 for an unsold box of drek, as old of books as you can get, no Independents. Look grateful. Sell on EBay in your new store. Take the $100 you now have, do it some more, start the machine.
Use the machine earnings to buy books of the sort you know will sell, grow the pile, grow the machine. Use other money over time to add to the machine. Put anything good or cool aside as it gets bigger.
Start a comic book and collectibles store. Buy the building. In 40 years start to sell the really good stuff.
Investment.
Or buy a graded variant cover. So cool!
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
They used to have these things called Savings Bonds (sp) 65 million years ago that modeled investing behaviors. I'm the dumbest guy in the room again.

Here on forum for a comic grading website while media are being pushed to digital for reasons that have nothing to do with lack of interest.

Guess I'll go play my new Pearl Jam record my kid bought me. Sigh....
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Y'all heard this? Listen along!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxKWTzr-k6s
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
I wish you knew how funny this is.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Do you experts think the bias toward 9.8s prices the 10-16 year old demographic out of graded comics?


I don't think the 9.8 bias has any impact on their involvement.
Speaking of Utes, I'm very interested to see what happens in 2024 with Swifties and Dazzler. We may just get a case study to learn from. My prediction:
1) Grade won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
2) Slabs won't be all that important to the Swiftie masses.
3) X-men 130 might not be all that important to Swifties, they will probably be more inclined to pick up Dazzler #1 as well as other Dazzler back issues.


She’ll likely just reissue an album and include a reprint with it. All her fans will focus on buying that instead of an old comic. Anything to send her more $$$.


What's a "Swiftie?"

It's like a quickie except afterwards you get a revenge song written about you followed by bad karma.

At this point, there should be a support group out there somewhere.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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She’ll likely just reissue an album and include a reprint with it. All her fans will focus on buying that instead of an old comic. Anything to send her more $$$.


Hadn't thought about that. I think you are probably absolutely right.
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It's like a quickie except afterwards you get a revenge song written about you followed by bad karma.

At this point, there should be a support group out there somewhere.


And you get black-balled by the Swiftie Army, making it unsafe for you to go anywhere near a Junior High School.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
I read ute and as an Australian this was my first thought.


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I read ute and as an Australian this was my first thought.




Context is king, I suppose.
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being an ass and being a clown are two very different things. HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user
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Staple topics, nice. makahuka private msg quote post Address this user
My 4 kids range from mid 30's down to late teens. They all grew up with comics and cards from a really young age. Just for the love of it, we would read comics, play the ccg/tcg's. It wasn't until later(like the last few years), that 2 of my kids even cared what some of their stuff was worth, and then again they still don't worry about it. My youngest ripped a pack of One Piece(popular anime tcg) cards open, found a popular card, took it to the trading card store, and got half of what it was worth. He bought video game add-ons with the money, and hasn't cared since. I always offer my kids a trip to the comic and card shops, but they have no interest. I have 1 kid that still likes sports cards, but doesn't worry about what they're worth or what the players first card is, he just likes to collect his favorite players, an only if the cards look cool/different, because of the interesting shapes the cards are cut into now.
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"There, their, they're." GAC private msg quote post Address this user
I would have spelt it: Yoots...like boots.

Utes sounds like a deep space alien villain....unless you're from Utah.

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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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I read ute and as an Australian this was my first thought.




What's the worst thing about being bit by a poisonous spider?
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You're probably Australian!!
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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I would have spelt it: Yoots...like boots.

Utes sounds like a deep space alien villain....unless you're from Utah.

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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
I don't know, man. I get a kick out of decommoditization.

The other day I carried a book in for a trade and watched the store owner attempt to valuate it. Let me tell you, that experience alone was worth the price of grading.

He didn't know me from Adam. He had no idea what he was holding.

He arrived at a figure of nothing. I laughed all the way to my car.

Most people aren't pervy like that, and I get it. But I love making market gatekeepers panic... visibly...on their YouTube channels.

"Well, there's no sales data for this! How will we ever arrive at a fair market value!?"

You won't, buddy. If you had to pay what it's actually worth, you couldn't afford it in ten lifetimes.
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being an ass and being a clown are two very different things. HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user
So it was a tease @Oldfuzznts?
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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So it was a tease @Oldfuzznts?


Experiment. How do you explain to someone that any FMV calculation for something so innocuous would need to include a variable for the cost incurred to prevent it from causing a debilitating market disruption?

Nah, you just roll with it and observe.
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being an ass and being a clown are two very different things. HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user
HAHAHA!!!
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being an ass and being a clown are two very different things. HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user
Would there happen to be a reptile of any kind on the cover @Oldfuzznts?
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