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Random thought. In “Infinity Wars” Smart Hulk tells the Ancient One that if he returns to the exact moment the stone is taken, and puts it back that timeline is protected… cool. I follow that.
Then in End Game Smart Hulk says that’s not how time travel works, they can’t go back and murder baby Thanos. That made sense to me too.

But when I really think about it, he contradicted himself didn’t he?

Thoughts?
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also....Hulk cant return the time stone. As seen in Loki season 1, episode 1. That timeline was pruned because Loki escaped. so timeline doesnt exist anymore. Smart Hulk went to same time as Cap, Scott and tony did which is when Loki was nabbed by tva
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The French went a little loco around 1812...
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There are no rules in the multiverse. Even contradictions have no sway there.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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MCU has become a plethora of nonsense for awhile.
I've tried to ignore the relatively small stuff

But when Shuri gets impaled from front, all the way through to the back with a spear from Namor.
And then she just continues fighting like nothing is wrong....

I mean really.
What's next? a Beheading where the head just rolls back onto the body and all is cool?

Obviously all is fiction, but c'mon writers. Can ya try to make it somewhat realistic
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In Star Wars movies a new generation of lazy writers decided that The Force would be whatever they needed it to be. It's not a big surprise that a generation of MCU writers would decide that pretty much everything about comic books would be whatever they need it to be. Lazy writing.
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Shuri is twice the man as black panther and 4 times smarter then Tony Stark. Kang better hope she doesn't show up.
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Shuri is twice the man as black panther and 4 times smarter then Tony Stark. Kang better hope she doesn't show up.


True, and her balls are 3X bigger than Hulks.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
That's the problem/allure of time travel and the multiverse....from a writers perspective, they love it because they can write virtually any scenario....the stakes can be incredibly high and there are no written corners to be considered or afraid of because it's too easy to write yourself out of that corner. From a fan's perspective the stakes are never that dire or permanent because we all know it can just be written away.
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Exactly though his balls are up for spec. With the amount of roids he has taken it may be shrivel city.
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I award you no points! stanley_1883 private msg quote post Address this user
To play devils advocate, it holds up if you are referring to that specific timeline doesn’t it?
Sure you can’t change your own timeline as per Endgame but if you return the stone to that specific timeline (Earth 616 or whatever) the it holds water doesn’t it? That specific timeline never lost the stone technically, right.
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
Most of the above illustrates why I do not like time travel and multiverse storylines. There is no tension, nothing matters because anything can be undone.

Thanos kills one half of life in the universe. That's huge, right? An unimaginable tragedy. Except it is not. Because the Avengers use time travel to undo it. If Disney/Marvel decide they need RDJ back as Iron Man, he will be back. Time travel or multiverse will be the means and his heroic death becomes unimportant.

If nothing that happens in the next movie is really going to matter, why go see it? Just wait till it streams. It would be better - IMHO - that if the writers and powers that be don't want to be bound by any continuity, they should just wait a few years and reboot. Like the Batman and Spider-Man movies have done multiple times.
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@IronMan fair…my only counter is that in a sense it works. Don’t think that that specific Iron Man can return. He was involved in the time travel and died. However for those not involved in the “time heist” did their timeline really change. We are focused on that specific character and their immediate family. Can’t you argue that Wolverine for example, his timeline didn’t change if he has no connection to the time heist?
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Random thought. In “Infinity Wars” Smart Hulk tells the Ancient One that if he returns to the exact moment the stone is taken, and puts it back that timeline is protected… cool. I follow that.
Then in End Game Smart Hulk says that’s not how time travel works, they can’t go back and murder baby Thanos. That made sense to me too.

But when I really think about it, he contradicted himself didn’t he?

Thoughts?


Those two don't contradict each other at all. They both say you can't change what already happened. The distinction is that you can sort of go sideways from what happened, like borrowing the stones and then putting them back. In the Thanos case, you could go back and kill baby Thanos but then you'd have to also go back and resurrect him at the same instant.
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What a great episode.

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@Davethebrave it's definitely my favorite 10th Doctor, David Tennant, episode!!
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The French went a little loco around 1812...

2007 vintage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3284262/
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I like spaghetti, it tastes better, I don't what a pruned branch tastes like. Can't wait to see how Wolverine is drawn into the MCU, will it be sketchy?
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Well what I don’t get if hulk got the time stone. then lasted on in end game strange opens up the portal to let Wakanda and the rest of the heroes to fight Thanos but that version of strange wouldn’t had ever had the time stone right.
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Never mind I figured it out they snapped everyone came back including doctor strange because he saw it in one of the outcomes he knew where to port everybody too after it was over hulk returns stone back and i just appeares back on strange well hulk didn’t bring it back but Steve Rodger’s did at the end
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The French went a little loco around 1812...

2007 vintage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3284262/


Good thing they can't read our minds when we see a dude on rollerblades.
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That's the problem/allure of time travel and the multiverse....from a writers perspective, they love it because they can write virtually any scenario....the stakes can be incredibly high and there are no written corners to be considered or afraid of because it's too easy to write yourself out of that corner. From a fan's perspective the stakes are never that dire or permanent because we all know it can just be written away.


I'm going to defend the Endgame writers a bit here: Although things eventually reset, they did a great job of showing the mental anguish and generation-long depression that came about as a result of The Snap. That is an experience that remains with the surviving half even after the reset. Also, Tony Stark's daughter could be considered a composite character. Although she survived the reset, presumably she represents any positive post-snap developments in people's lives that would be lost in the reset. Many people would lose children, relationships, jobs, etc. in the reset, and she was symbolic of that.
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The French went a little loco around 1812...

2007 vintage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3284262/
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Summary of the article for the TL;DR crowd: When women and children see someone on a unicycle they typcially say something that expresses curiosity or concern for safety. When post-pubescent young men see someone on a unicycle, they typically make a joke that roughly translates as "what the fuck is wrong with you?"
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That's the problem/allure of time travel and the multiverse....from a writers perspective, they love it because they can write virtually any scenario....the stakes can be incredibly high and there are no written corners to be considered or afraid of because it's too easy to write yourself out of that corner. From a fan's perspective the stakes are never that dire or permanent because we all know it can just be written away.


I'm going to defend the Endgame writers a bit here: Although things eventually reset, they did a great job of showing the mental anguish and generation-long depression that came about as a result of The Snap. That is an experience that remains with the surviving half even after the reset. Also, Tony Stark's daughter could be considered a composite character. Although she survived the reset, presumably she represents any positive post-snap developments in people's lives that would be lost in the reset. Many people would lose children, relationships, jobs, etc. in the reset, and she was symbolic of that.


I will give you that. I really loved the majority of the films up to and including Endgame. The consequences seemed dire and real. I think though time travel/multiverse is a "one kick at the can" type of plot device. It's dramatic potency is exponentially reduced after the first usage. It can be used to great dramatic effect the first time and virtually none the second time around. It can also be easily telegraphed and considered lazy after multiple usages. I see the appeal from a writers POV but I'm assuming they'd also see the possible pitfalls especially if they go to that well a second time.
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I keep buying dumb stuff because I'm a bit of an underground influence marketer. Oldfuzznts private msg quote post Address this user
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The French went a little loco around 1812...

2007 vintage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3284262/
Quote:
Originally Posted by HAmistoso


Summary of the article for the TL;DR crowd: When women and children see someone on a unicycle they typcially say something that expresses curiosity or concern for safety. When post-pubescent young men see someone on a unicycle, they typically make a joke that roughly translates as "what the fuck is wrong with you?"


Getting rolled up on in the chat be like:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b09asWzbeBw
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