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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Some day, I do believe writers will remember how to tell a good story in a comic-based movie again.
Somewhere along the way, they lost their minds.


Someday writers will be hired again. Today, it's activists.

Or revisionists.
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Wow... 47 million for the opening weekend!!! What a success story!!

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At what point is Feige & friends going to wake up
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Wow... 47 million for the opening weekend!!! What a success story!!

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At what point is Feige & friends going to wake up


as mentioned - this movie is not targeted the US market but rather the overseas market where it generated $63mm for opening weekend - so in total $110mm.

key is whether globally it hits the $300mm net it cost to produce
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Is $110 million a positive globally?

I haven't looked at any other mcu movies but 110 just off top of my head seems pretty darn sad as well
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Is $110 million a positive globally?

I haven't looked at any other mcu movies but 110 just off top of my head seems pretty darn sad as well


It isn’t. They will need a minimum $450M global (domestic plus row) take to break even (in the best case). Reality is they likely have to hit $600M or so to break even. Especially given the splits of more box office from foreign - the studios pocket more from domestic box office.
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Keep your $6.87 bro... not even saving tax with that. Cli4dR3D0g private msg quote post Address this user
Luckily the writer's strike is over so we can see classic movies remade again over and over (without AI).
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Wow... 47 million for the opening weekend!!! What a success story!!

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At what point is Feige & friends going to wake up


as mentioned - this movie is not targeted the US market but rather the overseas market where it generated $63mm for opening weekend - so in total $110mm.

key is whether globally it hits the $300mm net it cost to produce


That would still be a loss. I've seen two numbers for the budget and went with the average which is $247.3 million. To break even, it would need to pull in approximately $618 million.

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@Studley_Dudley I don't get myself 'hyped up' to see movies exactly, but I go with the expectation that I'll see something fun I haven't seen before. That's what a movie is for, right? A couple hours of entertainment. I don't read books expecting all of them to be Shakespeare or comic books expecting them all to be Dark Knight Returns (or what have you). For The Marvels in particular, I enjoyed Kamala Khan's character in the show and was looking forward to more of that, and seeing more space battles and whatnot.

I also think there's a lot of selective memory in the MCU Endgame run. Yeah, Iron Man was a lot of fun because RDJ brought a lot to the role. Winter Soldier was very well done. But Thor was good mostly as the surprise of not being bad, and Thor 2 was worse. Iron Man 2 is no one's favorite movie and 3 wasn't great shakes either. No one remembers that Norton Hulk is actually in there. Even when they brought the whole team together, Age of Ultron was meh. People don't think about it the same way they complain no one makes good music any more, forgetting that 90% of what came out from their favorite time period was immediately disposable.

And since someone mentioned Carnage, I can tell you that I'm happy for the relative mediocrity of what Marvel puts out compared to what Sony does to comic characters. Sweet Lord.


I'll admit that there was a lot of dogcrap between 2008-2019. Thor 1 and 2 immediately come to mind. IM 2 and 3, Ultron and Civil War were weak. Winter Soldier is the only one I would say is an actual great film. The rest range from bad to good, IMO. There are entertaining aspects and some good twists but overall, damn near every film was the same yet somehow the quality differed. I like to be entertained when I go to a movie or even watch one at home. I haven't felt that in quite a while.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
There's only three MCU movies I've seen in their entirety; The Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy I, and Guardians of the Galaxy II.
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Yeah, Sony really threw away that $7M they paid for Spider-man movie rights. Flop after flop.

My memory of MCU then vs now is fully intact. I actually disliked End Game and felt their original phase peaked with Infinity War. It has been downhill since then, with the occasional pleasant surprise.
Have to agree. They ruined the Hulk, Thor,
Captain America, Nebula and Gamora somewhere between Infinity War and Endgame.



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There's only three MCU movies I've seen in their entirety; The Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy I, and Guardians of the Galaxy II.


I'm shocked . I thought you would've at the very least seen Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I've seen parts of Thor, none of Infinity War. No real desire. They don't really play well with the 1970s ideals in my head.
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i really enjoyed it. but best part was ending and end credits
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Killers of the Flower Moon, Scorsese’s Oscar front runner took in 23 million its first weekend (less than half of the Marvels) and likewise needs 400 million to break even. It appears to have no chance of that. While Marvel fans are spoiled by the occasional massive box office numbers, their movies still bring in tons of revenue. They are not going anywhere, but I do hope they forget about the multi verse and mine the great stories and characters they have in the vault in stand alone movies.
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I liked Spiderman in the multiverse.

Werewolf by night and Loki.

That is all... lately...
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Johnny, where are your buccaneers?
Johnny: Under my buccan hat.
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Took the grandkids to see the Marvels... My opinion and the grandkids opinions

Marvel has lost there way.. Story line was ok until it went off track

Don't get me wrong there were some good parts but... The singing planet NO... the sun being sucked into a worm hole.. NO.. The all woman Super hero's.. They were weak.. No Black Widow ass kicker among them.. They were all to campy..

The grandkids opinions.. 12 boy..14 boy & 14 girl Thumbs down, It even fell below Thor Love & Thunder.. Which they said s also Stunk..

If Marvel doesn't go back to serious ass kicking super hero's with good story lines (the comics are full of them) and stops with there woke agenda there doomed..
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Dang. Like Christan McCaffreyy says in his Visa commercial, "tough crowd." Just happy as an old guy that they made every Marvel show and movie for me. Many turds, but still re-watch them over and over again, looking forward to seeing the Marvels again.
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I see the 2nd week of Marvels was a majestic success both domestically & internationally

It makes me so happy when I see failure tied in with poor quality of product.
Was getting worried that these piece of sh%t movies they've been putting out would still net incredible profits and yet it's been going down down down down as time progresses. Good.

Someone needs to wake up....be it Iger or Feige or whomever and start being the force again that you once were with both the effects AND most importantly storytelling and originality.

So so tired of hearing "oh the movie was alot of fun" as being the best review one can muster for this crap they're putting out lately.
Glad it's hitting them in the pocketbook now.
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I would love to see The Marvels in the theater, but won't be able to. We thoroughly enjoyed the Ms. Marvel TV show, but have a 7-year-old and don't get to go to the movies regularly anymore. The last Marvel movie I saw in the theater opening night was Doctor Strange (the first one). Other than Wakanda Forever, I have at least tried to watch all of the MCU films (I was heartbroken when Chadwick Boseman died, and it still feels like too soon to watch the new film).

There is a definite audience fatigue as far as superhero films go, but the average quality of the MCU product has definitely fallen off since Phase Three ended. But as has been pointed out in this thread, not all the early films were good. I, personally, like Iron Man 2. But 3? Nah, fam. The first Thor film was okay at best, and two was not great. Hated Age of Ultron.

But much of the success of the first three phases of the MCU was mostly founded on the charisma and ability of the stars. When you lose those stars, for whatever reason, it leaves a massive hole. Combine that with the human distaste for change (amplified among comic fans), and a fall off in box office would be expected. Combine that with the dilution effect of multiple (sometimes excellent) TV shows, and of course fewer people are going to cough up money for a movie ticket.

In essence, why should I go to the movie theater? The average movie ticket is almost 12 bucks. Disney+ is $14/month. If I am going to get to see the movie sooner or later (sooner, the worse it does in theaters), why bother?

Disney will figure it out. Or they won't. To be honest, I really wish DC would get its act together. The last time DC put out two good movies in a row were Batman and Batman Returns. Either way, I still have my comics.

TL,DR: Movie quality is cyclical, and we have a rosy perception of the past.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
@James42 We took our 8 year old and she loved it. Had to take a couple trips to the bathroom but that was it. The audience rating is 83% so people who are bothering to go are enjoying it.
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