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New Mutants 98 Newsstand Pen marks on the back cover19728

Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user





Hello everyone, really need some helpful advice. I just acquired this copy of NM 98 newsstand edition with Fabian Nicieza signature on page 1 and as you can see someone did some doodling on the back of the book and I was thinking of sending it to CBCS for a signature verification grade. Question 1 ( How much will it hit the grade? Question 2 ( Can it be removed? Without the markings, It’s a really nice copy NM. Thanks I’m advanced for your help.
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Collector Stardust_Memories private msg quote post Address this user
Are they Fabian's doodles?
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
ouch that stinks.
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
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Are they Fabian's doodles?

It’s not.
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
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ouch that stinks.

Yes it does, but it could’ve been worse.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I don't think they can be removed without the risk of a restored label.
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
@DrWatson. I was afraid of that, but if it doesn’t hurt the grade too much I can live with it. What would you say.5,1.0 or more?
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Collector grapeape private msg quote post Address this user
Leave it as is and send in for grading. It's still worth it.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
isnt there a site where you can input defects like that and would tell you grade

But Id think theyd deduct per pen marks. not super prominent but still major
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
Is the 12/31 an arrival date? The 1-3 might be 1 of 3 copies received?
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
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Is the 12/31 an arrival date? The 1-3 might be 1 of 3 copies received?


good eye. i thought it was random scribbles but could be notes from a store when it was new or someone not knowing what they had and making notes
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
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Leave it as is and send in for grading. It's still worth it.

Yeah I’m definitely sending it in, just wanted some feedback on grade and possible cleaning.
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
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isnt there a site where you can input defects like that and would tell you grade

But Id think theyd deduct per pen marks. not super prominent but still major


If there’s a site I’ve never heard of it. Thanks for your reply.

And is CBCS still giving Red labels for verified sigs?
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
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Leave it as is and send in for grading. It's still worth it.

Yeah I’m definitely sending it in, just wanted some feedback on grade and possible cleaning.


to me. if comic for most part still looks good and have no intention on selling. grade is trivial. could take a good hit because of the pen marks. but should be good with consideration.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
For what it's worth you can do a press screening. If they feel it needs a clean and press they do it. If not they just charge you the screening fee.
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
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For what it's worth you can do a press screening. If they feel it needs a clean and press they do it. If not they just charge you the screening fee.

Thanks, I’ll definitely look into this.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
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For what it's worth you can do a press screening. If they feel it needs a clean and press they do it. If not they just charge you the screening fee.


good idea. do this CraigAnEm. you pay them to basically grade and tell you the grade. If its a grade you want, give the ok to slab. if not what you want and dont want to pay the rest....they send it back
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Collector CraigAnEm private msg quote post Address this user
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Is the 12/31 an arrival date? The 1-3 might be 1 of 3 copies received?

😂 It was Fabian, he forgot to sit the paper down on top of the book 😂 So it’s a Re-mark
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@CraigAnEm Definitely get it verified and graded. The pen marks won't be a huge deduction...maybe a full point or so. The book looks good overall. Unless I'm missing something I'd say the book is in the 7.0 range give or take. The pen marks can not be removed but a press and clean is still probably worth it.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
the 12/31 1=(3) could be completely unrelated to the comic. could be someone writing notes about new year's eve and one of something. thought was writing on something random
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Is the 12/31 an arrival date? The 1-3 might be 1 of 3 copies received?

😂 It was Fabian, he forgot to sit the paper down on top of the book 😂 So it’s a Re-mark

Having a remark placed over the doodles might not be a bad idea. I had a sketch colored because of an errant inker's pen stroke. Now, I can't even find the mistake anymore.


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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
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isnt there a site where you can input defects like that and would tell you grade

But Id think theyd deduct per pen marks. not super prominent but still major


If there’s a site I’ve never heard of it. Thanks for your reply.

And is CBCS still giving Red labels for verified sigs?


I think this is the website he’s referring to

And no, CBCS uses yellow labels for all its signature books, Witnessed or verified
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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isnt there a site where you can input defects like that and would tell you grade

But Id think theyd deduct per pen marks. not super prominent but still major

And is CBCS still giving Red labels for verified sigs?


Sadly, no. All yellow.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
i used the link. it would be "multiple ballpoint on cover" which alone drives grade down to 7.5
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
@power_struggle55 Multiple is a strong word, and it's on the back cover instead of the front.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@CraigAnEm

NEARMINT+9.6
This is close to mint with some minor defects. Even though some defects are allowed in 9.6, certain defects, such as tape, are never allowed in this grade range.

Slight stress on the spine.
The staples themselves are generally centered clean with no discernible rust.
Maybe some minor color has chipped or flaked off the cover.
The cover is flat with no surface wear. Inks are bright with high reflectivity and very little fading. Square and sharp corners with ever so slight blunting permitted.
You can tell that this comic has been stored properly and looks almost as new as the day it was printed.
The smallest amount of creasing
All bindery tears are small.
Only some binding and/or printing defects allowed.
Cover is fairly well centered and firmly secured to interior pages.
Paper is supple and like new.
Spine is tight and flat.
Unobtrusive date stamps or arrival dates in pencil or ink are acceptable.
Many pedigree collection comics have a notation on the cover or the interior of the comic and are considered a bonus to collectors as they help prove the provenance of the comic.

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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
Although a 9.6 is possible based on the criteria @GAC pointed out; I would not hold my breath on a modern. That would be nice if it got a 9.4/9.6 assuming lack of other defects. Being a modern I wouldn’t expect it. Was it still common practice to have date “stamps” in the 90s? The signature has the most benefit unless you have Liefeld sign it too. Don’t get me wrong; it’s super cool and (more) valuable with the sig regardless of the back cover pen. Good luck.
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