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| I went to submit 5 pre 70s books a few weeks ago and couldn't believe the price. I can't remember but it was like 250 and I had to wait a little bit | ||
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| anyone who recognize this sig? looks like Joseph A - dated 1979 | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo Just thought I’d spread some knowledge. You now get billed at the con and they run your card on the spot instead of charging once received. We now get a printed receipt that we payed. Mr. Lockwood didn’t have to give me his John Handcock. |
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 It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nearmint67 Definitely getting pricey....I will only submit with a promo code.....primarily because most of my books that I want slabbed already have been. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Yikes! anyone remotely connected to the books publication with those initials? Either that or its the original owners name! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GACOnce I’m committed and ready it’s a done deal. I submitted all of them. I saved myself at least 3 hours of packing and probably 60 bucks on shipping since I fully insure. It was worth it to me at least, to get them in right now in the moment. |
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Spoiler alert.  |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| @HeinzDad wow!! Makes me wish I had something worth submitting. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics sorry i should have said. it is original art - not comic pages  |
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@HeinzDad Is that a Spinach Hookah? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Even harder! Any chance of pic of the art? Has to be someone somehow connected to the piece. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics just posted |
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| @poka original art...we need captain Steve Borock! Maybe IM him? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flandersI haven’t sent any books in, in an embarrassing amount of time. Half of those were already to go in and the other half was a mad dash the last two weeks. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad It is ok. just if anyone knew. |
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| Ive heard people say that they only use CBCS for signature verification and everything else goes to CGC. That’s fine; you want the sig slabbed with assurance it’s real. What just clicked for me and I don’t why I hadn’t thought of it before is; If you don’t trust a business enough to send all of your books (that they will touch) why would you trust them with something as “important” as verifying signatures? If you believe in verification enough to use it, how does standard grading services of another company overshadow CBCS who is already handling some of your books? I know I’m referencing the use of common sense which is rare, but still. |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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| It's better the devil you know. People hate change. Plus, those CBCS books won't plug into your Registry set from the cgc. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash For me, its always been "Which graded company gives me the highest price when i sell a book?" In the past, 2 of the same books, 9.8 grades, graded by CGC and CBCS - CGC generally got higher sale prices when sold on MCS, Ebay, CL. This has changed a bit over the past 2 years though. Prices now seem to be more equal across both companies. So its possible others think the same way? Or maybe its only perception and not reality? Maybe im just wrong? lol |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| I just happened to be looking at the MCS sales history for X-Men Annual 14. It shows the CGC/CBCS split pretty clearly. CGC 9.8s sell for $180-200, CBCS 9.8s sell for $140-150. Doesn't make a lick of sense. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonkonly explanation for it is there’s more people who collect cgc than cbcs. And if they are only collecting one brand of slab because they like everything to match brand loyalty kind of thing. Plus 266 is a better cover of gambit over annual 14 in my opinion. |
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| I don't understand it either. It's the same book. Well, it's not exactly the same book, but it's the same issue. It's still a comic book. The simplest answer is that people are dumb. Why pay more for the same thing? Brand recognition, I suppose. But it's not like it's pasta sauce... where one tastes different than another. It's funny. The books I always bid on in CBCS holders never seem to sell on the cheap. I still think it has a lot to do with the cgc Registry... gotta fill those holes... win those awards. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash This is on CBCS for allowing their valuable verification service to be diminished and used this way. They should have used it as leverage to demand further submissions. Maybe instead of charging for it they should have offered one free verification with every 5 books submitted, and make that the only way for low volume customers to access it. This valuable service could have been used to pull bigger levers. Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Changing market behavior requires a comprehensive plan and dedication to executing it. I doubt that CBCS could articulate any action plan for closing the gap on market value. I agree that the Registry likely adds to the difference in price at this stage. But a CBCS registry right now would not move the needle. A registry doesn't draw the crowd, a registry gets the crowd that's already there to be loyal, buy more, and pay higher prices. But the crowd needs to already be at critical size for anyone other than a handful of loyalists to care about the registry. |
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| I just figure it shows the irrationality of the comic market. To me I'm buying a comic - the extra I pay is for grading and assurance of restoration etc. There is a cost related to that added utility - but - at least in my mind I figure that two companies whos grading ethos were originally setup from the same man have the same or similar quality levels. If by being the first to market CGC has more brand recognition and that equates to a higher sale price...so be it...not much can be done about it other than the slow increase of CBCS books on the market with a continued focus on quality grading to narrow that gap But that's it - it's brand recognition...because based on the product alone (grading) CBCS and CGC are the same - maybe even a slight lead to CBCS...being better doesn't mean a win though...just ask Beta vs VHS |
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| When Norman Bates was under the age of twelve.....did people call him... Master Bates?? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I would, but they're both dead. |
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| @xkonk agreed. It don’t make sense. Until I read @Travis comment, that maybe more people might collect cgc only. As for grading, they both seem to be equal. A 9.8 with cgc would get a 9.8 with CBCS. I’ve actually bought a few CBCS graded books done by peach Momoko, and sent them into cgc for her signing, and they came back 9.8 SS. Then again, maybe it’s because CGC was the pioneer? |
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 I hear their hourly rate is outrageous!
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| @multi007 "...maybe it’s because CGC was the pioneer?" Bingo! This is the real reason for the disparity. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by multi007 Oh, not so, mon frère. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Maybe I’ve been lucky? |
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