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Quote:Originally Posted by steveinthecity I haven't but I did see that @Darkga started a thread just today in which he mentioned selling on Catawiki. Maybe he can share some insight. |
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 I'm not a plagiarist. I'm also not illiterate.
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonkI'm sorry you got burned. I know you were hunting that book for a while. I don't know if the guy will buy back a trimmed book. PGX is a horrible grading company. Hopefully you can resell your book and recoup some of the money. |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk So PGX missed a major defect? That's so... uncommon........ Anyway, I wish you luck but since it's not the same item anymore, meaning it's in a completely different slab now, you could have trouble returning it. And I'm talking about eBay, not the seller. If it's known to be trimmed there is little chance he will take it back so you're likely dependent on eBay. Start the return, see what he says and then see what eBay says. If you used PayPal, you have extra protection and may need to pursue it but they won't do anything until eBay has made a decision. Good luck. And don't buy PGX. |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk I always assume when buying a PGX slab I'm getting a book that isn't accurately graded and has a high potential to have restoration, trimming, or missing pages and I'll pay 50% of the fmv at most of an unrestored book. I'd ask for a refund for the difference of the price you paid and tne FMV of the CBCS trimmed book and keep it in your collection. I know trimming has a more negative affect on value than color touch and other minor restoration, so I might even consider returning it. I don't know how that'll work since you're not sending the same item back and have removed it from the slab. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Return it: item not as described. That's a big book and you likely would not have bought it....at the very least, not paid what you did if you knew it was trimmed. |
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| @xkonk what part of the book was trimmed? Top? The whole right side of your book had alot of Marvel chipping. I don't understand why it would be trimmed.   |
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drmccoy74 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAChow can he return it? It's a graded book. The seller didn't grade it. He was selling a book graded by a 3rd party. |
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| Seller should not accept any return. Not on them. Neither should ebay. Selling prices of PGX books reflect the risk. |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Item not as described? Seriously? |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders You’d request this out of some hope the seller is some combination of saint and fool? |
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| I think some people like having their cake and eating it too. | ||
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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| I have purchased several books from High Grade Comics over the years. They say on their site that they have a no restoration policy. Well one of the books I purchased several years was a lower grade Hulk #6. At the time, there was a huge backlog for pressing and grading. I had the book pressed by Avery Pressing and then submitted it to CBCS for grading. It came back as trimmed. There were other books in that order that I also purchased with the Hulk #6. None of them came back as restored. So I contacted Bob at High Grade Comics and sent him pictures of the slab and it’s label saying trimmed. He told me to send him back the slabbed book and he would refund me my original purchase price. I said what about shipping costs, pressing costs, grading costs? He said they only refund the original purchase price, so I kept the book and eventually traded it. Unfortunately, it’s not the first or last time I have received books back from CBCS that were found to be restored in some way. |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Not the same, unless it was also an already graded book. If it was an already graded book (doubtful) it would be a highly unusual policy. |
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| @Davethebrave you speak the truth. You can't kill the messenger. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by drmccoy74 I’m (nearly) shocked by some of the replies above. Finally, while I don’t believe this likely in-fact, there is the possibility CBCS was wrong and PGX was correct. That the book was not trimmed. How on Earth could ebay support a refund in this example? Reminds me of the post a month or so ago about returning a book that failed signature verification. The thought process supporting this nonsense… |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Why not? It doesn't hurt to ask. I've already said above that I basically would've never bought the book. The most I've paid for a PGX slabbed comic is $30 and even that was a stupid decision. |
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drmccoy74 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravoI have gotten burned more than once by Metropolis. Like you I found out later on about the restoration. Nothing I could do except not buy from them anymore and pass on the information. |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders So the answer is yes. You can also offer $50 for an Action Comics 1. Doesn’t hurt to try. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Stop being ridiculous. That's not anywhere near the same thing. It's not like I'm on here saying the seller should feel guilty and accept the return. There's an assumption of risk when you buy PGX. I wish that instead of upvoting his inital post that I would've told him to return the book immediately. I think most of us refrained from giving our actual opinion since we assume anyone who's active on the forum is well aware of the risks they take when purchasing a PGX slab and didn't want to be a downer after someone acquired one of their grails. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drmccoy74 Many years ago I bought a good+ copy of Avengers 4 off metro. I instantly spotted the color touch on the cover and got back in touch with them and they told me to send the book back. Then I got a email list of half a dozen Avengers 4 in the vg range to pick and I rang them up and just said send me a copy. That copy was unrestored so I was made whole and I've bought off them ever since. I suppose when it comes to vintage books and you don't know what to look for restoration wise or actually open the book and count the pages then I suggest just buying slab books from grading companies you are comfortable with. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders I bought a PGX punisher 2 for just $10 as a curio from a lcs. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by southerncrossagree @southerncross. Most collectors on this forum can count pages, spot color touch, and probably trimming. I'm sure Metropolis comics can do the same. I'm glad they work out for you. I don't have the patience or time to deal with the hassle. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Great excuse for potentially tangling a seller up with ebay crap. At least my example is harmless absurdity. The recommendation to attempt a return / raise an item not as described issue with ebay actually does harm. |
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| In my opinion. Once you cracked open the pgx case you are on your own. If I were the seller I would not take it back. There is a certain level of self responsibility you need to accept or don't buy it. | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Correct. Like I said above, it's not the same item anymore. No one owes him the return. All he can do is ask, and learn from it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Well... a raw book isn't the same once it's been pressed, cleaned, and graded. We might see it as improved, but other collectors might not. I wouldn't have bought it in the first place, too many first hand experiences watching friends get burned. That said, I would still contact the seller. Maybe he knew upfront what he had. The answer's no until you ask. |
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| @xkonk I'm sorry you got pipped. Jokingly, send it back to PGX and see if it gets the same designation. |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| To put in my own two cents: I'm perfectly aware of PGX's reputation and knew I was rolling the dice. I did take the step of asking the seller if they submitted the book themselves or bought it that way, and if they were aware of any restoration or the like. They said they bought it graded and that there was no restoration or so on. So I took the risk in bidding the minimum and figured I was doing well even if the grade dropped so long as the book didn't have missed restoration. This is why I'm leaning toward not doing anything about it. On the other hand, the seller is listing a 5.5 unrestored X-Men 1, and told me in a message that there was no restoration. I did not get that; I got a 4.0 trimmed X-Men 1. So as far as it goes, I did not get what I was buying. This is why I can see some justification for at least asking for a partial refund. But on the whole, I'm thinking I will let it lie. Which I guess makes my follow-up question, does anyone have GPA for restored/trimmed X-Men 1 in VG? |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drmccoy74 The right side. I assume someone tried to make the chipping look less bad, but I have no idea. Here are the notes: Notes: right edge of front cover trimmed spine stress & small spine corner wear breaks color front cover rust bottom staple, 2/3" stain bottom right corner through book, light stains & foxing to cover creases to cover some breaks color front cover Marvel chipping right edge front cover, tiny production tears & few tiny production chips to other edges of cover |
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