Captain Britain # 119635

Originally Posted by Gaz973
Now that CBCS has started magazine grading, does anyone know if their policy regarding free gifts is the same as CGC’s? In other words they are regarded as incomplete if the free gift is missing. I’m assuming that would be the case as that’s how it works for ASM # 238 with the Tatooz but just wanted to be sure before I send as I don’t want them to discard the mask that’s with my Cap Britain # 1. I feel sure that I’m right but just wanted to confirm so I don’t get paranoid.

Originally Posted by KatKomics
I would assume a similar policy to CGC - needs mask/boomerang/airplane/tattoo to be complete
I'm also pretty sure that if it's loose then it won't be encapsulated with the comic/magazine i.e. still needs to be affixed however it was originally
Is your mask etc. still attached?

Originally Posted by James42
AFAIK, neither the mask or boomerang were attached. Just dropped in. This was pretty standard with UK publications for a long time. I remember buying car magazines on vacation in the late 80s and having stuff just fall out of them when I picked them up. By the mid-90s, bigger publishers started using polybags, but giveaways still were loose.

Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
And yet somehow, comics that are graded that had items floating around in a polybag or just laying in the middle of the comic that fall out are considered "incomplete".

Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
I get it. And as with anything I understand alternative points of view.
But in my opinion, their criteria is inconsistent and subjective unto itself.
And I don't appreciate when grading/label color rules have this level/degree of subjectivity.
There's enough subjectivity issues in Sarasota with grading. Having subjectivity with rules is more than I can bear.

Originally Posted by DrWatson
If it's physically attached to the book, it counts. If not, it doesn't.

It's like attached and personal property property in real estate. If it's wall to wall installed carpeting, it's attached to the home and goes with the sale of the home. If it's an 8 x 10 area rug that you can roll up and take with you, it's personal property, not attached, and not expected in the sale.

Originally Posted by Gaz973
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Originally Posted by DrWatson
If it's physically attached to the book, it counts. If not, it doesn't.

It's like attached and personal property property in real estate. If it's wall to wall installed carpeting, it's attached to the home and goes with the sale of the home. If it's an 8 x 10 area rug that you can roll up and take with you, it's personal property, not attached, and not expected in the sale.

Hi Jim, hope life is good with you.

It is kinda inconsistent, such as with the Cap Britain in question, the mask isn’t attached but is considered incomplete without it. The same with the Tatooz I believe, I seem to remember that people robbed them from the Fantastic Four issue that contained them to send in with the ASM # 238s for grading. Not that I’m criticising CBCS for the policy, I guess they’ve gone with the same policy as CGC to keep consistency with already established guidelines as it would be a mess if they didn’t.

Originally Posted by DrWatson
It has always been my understanding that loose objects weren't encapsulated with the book. It was said they could move around inside the case and potentially damage the book.

Originally Posted by DrWatson
It has always been my understanding that loose objects weren't encapsulated with the book. It was said they could move around inside the case and potentially damage the book.

Originally Posted by SteveRicketts
If a book is missing an insert that was supposed to be attached to it, the grade would top out at 7.0.

If an item can not be safely encapsulated with the book, it is returned to the customer and it is considered "missing." If it can be safely encapsulated with the book, it would just be considered "detached" and the hit to the grade would be less significant than one missing the insert.

Originally Posted by DrWatson
I would send it in, Garry. I sincerely doubt that CBCS would deviate from how the cgc grades it. It seems that it will get a grade hit if it isn't present.