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Have you all seen this data on CGC submission quantities?19613

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Pretty interesting info organizing and sorting data from the CGC census:

http://cgcdata.com/cgc/cgctop/


The link with all the distribution data. Also, the first post in this thread.

Btw, the median was clearly 9.0+ even without looking at the detailed data. The >8.5 mean meant it was all but certain. Math.
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@Davethebrave is discussing why there are so many ASM 300 submissions. @CaptainCanuck is discussing why there is a relative dearth of 9.8 submissions. The two subjects actually don't conflict with each other at all. There are tons of high-grade copies. The calculated median of 9.2 is probably understated when you consider how many books were likely cracked and pressed for resubmission after initial grading. A surprisingly low number of them get a 9.8 grade.


The range of submissions -drives- the relatively low percentage of 9.8s in the pop report. Because ASM 300 is the most valuable (mainstream) modern, it has the widest range of condition books subbed. Many moderns have majority 9.6+ subbed. Not a reflection on actual grades of the full population, just the economics of what makes sense to submit given market value.

Some other minor drivers are clean+press timing, book specific attributes, but these are secondary to the economics of submissions.
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It appears the Snickers shortage has hit both the US and Canada.


Personal story about Snickers.
They were my favorite candy while growing up. Up to about 10 years old when I got hold of an entire fun size bag and ate all of them one fine evening. And then vomited them all later that night.
Never touched that stuff since 10 years old and I'm 59 now

Speaking of vomiting...
I'm drinking that stuff for a colonoscopy later today. How the heck can they expect you to drink the whole thing! I'm just ralphing it back up!
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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I'm drinking that stuff for a colonoscopy later today. How the heck can they expect you to drink the whole thing! I'm just ralphing it back up!


Did that 5 years ago. Oofa!
Worst part was actually the worst headache I've ever had from NOT eating for 24 hours (maybe more?)
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I'm drinking that stuff for a colonoscopy later today. How the heck can they expect you to drink the whole thing! I'm just ralphing it back up!


Did that 5 years ago. Oofa!
Worst part was actually the worst headache I've ever had from NOT eating for 24 hours (maybe more?)

I heard that! When I read where it said not to eat for a whole day I thought, "Who can do that?"
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/isolateid/273

Universal Grade

Mean: 8.59
Median: 9.2
Mode: 9.4


Just to beat the dead horse here, the distribution kind of has to be this way because grades are capped at 10. Say that someone sends in a beat ASM 300 because Venom. It gets a 3.0. If the next nine copies in are 9.4s, the average grade for those ten books is 8.76. You can't average out the 3 with a book that gets a 15, so you need a lot of books in the 9s to counteract any low grades.
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Personal story about Snickers.
They were my favorite candy while growing up. Up to about 10 years old when I got hold of an entire fun size bag and ate all of them one fine evening. And then vomited them all later that night.
Never touched that stuff since 10 years old and I'm 59 now

My brother did the same thing with Oreos. What's wrong with you people?
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That's a great way to put it, but what I really want to hear is an overeating story which has lead to a taste aversion.

Honey Roasted Peanuts. Not because of overeating, but because I took a shot of Bacardi 151 with Lemon Juice and the gross taste stuck in my throat caused me to yak. The then-apparent drink recipe prank worked...
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http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/isolateid/273

Universal Grade

Mean: 8.59
Median: 9.2
Mode: 9.4


Just to beat the dead horse here, the distribution kind of has to be this way because grades are capped at 10. Say that someone sends in a beat ASM 300 because Venom. It gets a 3.0. If the next nine copies in are 9.4s, the average grade for those ten books is 8.76. You can't average out the 3 with a book that gets a 15, so you need a lot of books in the 9s to counteract any low grades.


Yup. This is why I posted this comment above:

“Btw, the median was clearly 9.0+ even without looking at the detailed data. The >8.5 mean meant it was all but certain. Math.”
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It appears the Snickers shortage has hit both the US and Canada.


Personal story about Snickers.
They were my favorite candy while growing up. Up to about 10 years old when I got hold of an entire fun size bag and ate all of them one fine evening. And then vomited them all later that night.
Never touched that stuff since 10 years old and I'm 59 now

Speaking of vomiting...
I'm drinking that stuff for a colonoscopy later today. How the heck can they expect you to drink the whole thing! I'm just ralphing it back up!

Call your doctor and let him/her know. They’ll give you pills to take, instead. Same thing happened to me.
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Speaking of vomiting...
I'm drinking that stuff for a colonoscopy later today. How the heck can they expect you to drink the whole thing! I'm just ralphing it back up!

I used a straw to drink that stuff. It went down faster then drinking it. Not fun.

Good luck with it.
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Just got back. I know many of you are chomping at the bit for details so...

- First of all, I got reamed out by my family for driving there a couple days in advance to find out exactly where I had to go the day of the procedure. Apparently, they have these things on your phone these days (GPS) that tell you where to go. But I'm determined to be the last person on Earth who has never owned one of those evil devices.
- I have always despised the fact that hospital gowns are put on backwards. I don't really enjoy walking around with my butt hanging out for the world to see.
- I was lying on the table, with the procedure almost ready to begin. Just as she began to administer the anesthesia, I got the urge to go to the bathroom. Next thin I know, I'm waking up in the recovery room...something tells me they had a mess to clean up.
- He found one polyp (2 last time). I guess the decline means I can go 10 years before the next one? Going without food for a whole day isn't something I want to do again!
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
I'm sure @ebaymafia is thrilled that his post has been hijacked and turned into a vomiting/colonoscopy thread. It's still better than two members bickering about nonsense.
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I'm sure @ebaymafia is thrilled that his post has been hijacked and turned into a vomiting/colonoscopy thread. It's still better than two members bickering about nonsense.


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I'm sure @ebaymafia is thrilled that his post has been hijacked and turned into a vomiting/colonoscopy thread. It's still better than two members bickering about nonsense.

Please accept the following story as a token of remorse.

A lady at my gym once sh!t herself on the stationary bike. The mud slinging looked like modern art on the wall behind her.
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"It's like the first ten minutes of Saving Private Ryan, except in your butt."
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I'm sure @ebaymafia is thrilled that his post has been hijacked and turned into a vomiting/colonoscopy thread. It's still better than two members bickering about nonsense.


I’ll hazard a guess that @Ebaymafia prefers nonsensical bickering over deafening monotony.
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I'm sure @ebaymafia is thrilled that his post has been hijacked and turned into a vomiting/colonoscopy thread. It's still better than two members bickering about nonsense.


I’ll hazard a guess that @Ebaymafia prefers nonsensical bickering over deafening monotony.


A bump is a bump.
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“Btw, the median was clearly 9.0+ even without looking at the detailed data. The >8.5 mean meant it was all but certain. Math.”


The British call it Maths
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Speaking of vomiting...
I'm drinking that stuff for a colonoscopy later today. How the heck can they expect you to drink the whole thing! I'm just ralphing it back up!




I mixed it with sprite. Worked great
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Back to the petty bickering: The low number of 9.8's in ASM 252 and ASM 300 sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other books in the top 10. Even if you don't include the stupid high numbers from Spawn, Venom and ASM 361, it's well less than half of what you would expect based on the numbers from the other books. Probably the most comparable book is Secret Wars 8, and it has more than 3 times as many 9.8's as either of these books.
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It's been commented on already, but maybe the ASM #300 has a lower 9.8 percentage due to the all black back cover and maybe spine ticks and other imperfections happen more easily on the book since it has 52 pages instead of 36. ASM #252 has a back cover that's half black and Secret Wars #8 has a back cover with a completely white spine.
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He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly. Instant_Subtitles private msg quote post Address this user
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I'm sure @ebaymafia is thrilled that his post has been hijacked and turned into a vomiting/colonoscopy thread. It's still better than two members bickering about nonsense.


Hey! I resemble that remark!

And for the record, my puke is the reason why I am fine that nobody cares that CGC's data on The Uncanny X-Men Annual 10 is wrong.
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Back to the petty bickering: The low number of 9.8's in ASM 252 and ASM 300 sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other books in the top 10. Even if you don't include the stupid high numbers from Spawn, Venom and ASM 361, it's well less than half of what you would expect based on the numbers from the other books. Probably the most comparable book is Secret Wars 8, and it has more than 3 times as many 9.8's as either of these books.


I assume you’re talking more about the absolute number of 9.8s rather than percentage (I hope so or the dead horse needs more beating).

Secret Wars likely had about 2x the print run of ASM300 or ASM252 so that closes much of the gap.

Then we can see what share of that print run was submitted and it is clear that many, many raw copies exist out there. Unfortunately the bias of what gets submitted is skewed heavily by how much more valuable ASM300 is (see above, and above, and above) so not a random sampling.

Then it is the other factors already discussed. The book itself, the timing (in other words, the likelihood of pressing before sub, double counts in registry data affecting grades lower than 9.8, etc). Would also be interesting to see the distribution channel mix. I suspect that has a major role on the “filtering” of total 9.8s out there. Look at the CBCS data for newsstand vs direct shares and relative grade distribution…

So, the selection of population skew ($ value), the print run size, distribution, book characteristics, timing of submissions.

The thread can now return to colonoscopies and/or critiques of the critiques of the topic of the thread.
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