Have you all seen this data on CGC submission quantities?19613

Originally Posted by HulkSmash
Wow. ASM 300 at #1 with 34k. No wonder so many sit on LCS walls with numbers like that.

Originally Posted by multi007
@EbayMafia cool. It also shows me to never EVER expect to get a 10.0 on ANY raw I submit.

Originally Posted by cyrano0521
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Originally Posted by multi007
@EbayMafia cool. It also shows me to never EVER expect to get a 10.0 on ANY raw I submit.

No one should EVER expect to get 10.0, except on square bound, hard paper books and maybe full shipping box finds.

Originally Posted by DWeeB1967
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Originally Posted by HulkSmash
Wow. ASM 300 at #1 with 34k. No wonder so many sit on LCS walls with numbers like that.

It still AMAZES me that this book sells for the prices that it does. I understand the significance but still. The market does what the market does, I guess.

Originally Posted by MurrayC
I wonder how many of those are resubmits after they've been cracked open for a clean and press and/or signature event?

Originally Posted by HulkSmash
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Originally Posted by cyrano0521
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Originally Posted by multi007
@EbayMafia cool. It also shows me to never EVER expect to get a 10.0 on ANY raw I submit.

No one should EVER expect to get 10.0, except on square bound, hard paper books and maybe full shipping box finds.

CGC is where I’d expect 10.0s from. I have a standard comic CBCS 9.9 that floored me. the book is immaculate; I expected 9.8 assuming it arrived safely. Another copy of the same book came back 9.8 of the expected 9.6/9.8. The only difference i could see on the 9.9 is super sharp corners as if it came right off the press and floated to my hands untouched by further machinery, packaging, or transportation.

Originally Posted by Davethebrave
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Originally Posted by HulkSmash
Wow. ASM 300 at #1 with 34k. No wonder so many sit on LCS walls with numbers like that.

It still AMAZES me that this book sells for the prices that it does. I understand the significance but still. The market does what the market does, I guess.

Amazing Spider-Man #300 has one of the lowest 9.8-to-total submissions ratios that you will find on a modern book, with only 5% graded at a 9.8.

Which makes perfect sense because it is also one of the most valuable modern books. So more copies (as a %) are worth submitting than most moderns.

Majority of the many, many graded copies are still 9.0+ graded. In other words, not scarce at all in great condition. Many excellent (ungraded) copies remain out there too.

Not true, according to the list, the average grade of an ASM #300 is 8.61. This is lower than pretty much every other modern book on that list.

Someone doesn’t know average from median.

Or logic

Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
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Originally Posted by DWeeB1967
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Originally Posted by HulkSmash
Wow. ASM 300 at #1 with 34k. No wonder so many sit on LCS walls with numbers like that.

It still AMAZES me that this book sells for the prices that it does. I understand the significance but still. The market does what the market does, I guess.

Amazing Spider-Man #300 has one of the lowest 9.8-to-total submissions ratios that you will find on a modern book, with only 5% graded at a 9.8.

Which makes perfect sense because it is also one of the most valuable modern books. So more copies (as a %) are worth submitting than most moderns.

Majority of the many, many graded copies are still 9.0+ graded. In other words, not scarce at all in great condition. Many excellent (ungraded) copies remain out there too.

Not true, according to the list, the average grade of an ASM #300 is 8.61. This is lower than pretty much every other modern book on that list.

Someone doesn’t know average from median.

Or logic

Easy there Dave. Let’s keep it respectful.

The list only mentions average, so that’s what I referred to.

Name some other modern books that have less high-grade-to-total submitted than ASM #300.

Originally Posted by Davethebrave
Re: grade distribution, I already explained why. Find me a modern book with similar overall scarcity where copies graded <8.0 were selling for >$700.

Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
Re: grade distribution, I already explained why. Find me a modern book with similar overall scarcity where copies graded <8.0 were selling for >$700.

This explains most of it. I think there is a timing component to it also. When you factor in the variables of when pressing became a common practice and when the books achieved "slab worthy" value, that may play a role in the distribution of grades. ASM 300 is 11 years older than NM 98 and 4 years younger than Secret Wars 8. But it achieved wide-grade "slab worthy" value before both of these books...in an era when pressing was not widely available. So many of the slabs with grades below 9.0 may not even exist today. In fact, many of the 9.0's-9.4's on the census may well have been cracked and pressed since they were first graded. Certainly many were not cracked, but that 34,000 number is probably overstated by several thousand, all of them likely being less than 9.6. NM 98 and SW 8 would be more likely to have already been pressed before the first submission.

Or, it’s that blasted black back cover