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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I for one have enjoyed the discussion and the useful information provided on this thread. It sure beats the usual dribble of hype, spec & print runs that's usually found on comic book forums. Thanks @DocBrown |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer LOL You and I would both be put out to pasture..... ;O) So that is that guy.......I never did wonder what he looked like. :o) |
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| @DocBrown 'Maybe I'm missing something, but that sounds redundant. "If you aren't willing to pay for the slabbing, it would be best not to slab"...? That seems self-evident...?" LOL Okay...okay...touche.... My comment was more so - for the obvious.....if you don't like how slabs come back, then maybe you shouldn't have submitted your book to be slabbed in the first place. It seems to me, that when a grade comes back lower than expected, some are surprised. Not me. If I gamble...I take a risk. The risk is a lower grade than what I am expecting. This has happened to me, but it has also gone the other way......like a book pre-screened as a 9.4 and came back a 9.6. I'm good either way....because I know I will only submit books that (a) I want slabbed - not worrying about the grade - and (b) submit only books that I hope to receive a high grade. If it doesn't - and we know it occurs, it was probably my error to begin with. I don't blame the companies for the low grades applied, because they have much better equipment than I....and after all...they are supposed to be the experts....not me. It's a gamble.....that I am willing to pay. Some are not. That was pretty much all I was trying to say. Cheers! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nino_013 Thank you, Nino.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Kaleljll Lmfao! Yes and as this is a CBCS forum, we shall defend the wall against all enemies, foreign and domestic  (or or maybe just from the dudes across the street 🤣)*really though, this has been an extremely informative and entertaining thread  |
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| The main reason I use cbcs over cgc is simple there slabs are good for life and cgc is only good for 7 years. Also they know the business as good as cgc and strive to do things better for the customers unlike cgc is in it for the money. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JCage That's exactly why I decided to go with them as well and I like the design of the cases. I feel like I will end up saving a little money in the long run as well. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JCage As was stated earlier in this thread, this is no longer the case. CGC now uses a Mylar inner well with no MicroChamber paper, just like CBCS. |
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| I still feel better about using CBCS though. The past designs of CGCs cases like the creep engine pretty much made me want to never use them or purchase any books slabbed by them. I have a few that need to be sent into CBCS to have re-slabbed | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Kaleljll Agreed. |
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| Just looked into the new cgc cases even though they say new and improved they still don't say anything about being a lifetime case like cbcs. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JCage The newer cgc cases have the mylar inner well like CBCS and I guess they don't use the microchamber paper according to @The_Curmudgeon.  |
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| I here what your saying but unless they say it and guarantee it I don't bye it if its the same cases why is cgc having a ton of people complain about the newton rings and other issues and cbcs you rarely here anything about the case unless people are complaining about the looks. | ||
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| I 100% agree. Again, that's why I decided I was going to be using cbcs and will not even purchase another cgc book | ||
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| I cracked some of my comics in the newer cgc cases. It still had microchamber paper. | ||
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| CGC's membership requirement kinda turned me off. I understand with the membership discounts the fees all come out in the wash, but it smacks of pay to play and I don't like it. Before I started grading my collection I listened to a few podcasts that all said CGC was "corporate" and didn't treat customers well. So I went with cbcs and have been very happy with the choice. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I have not read the newest Grading Guide in enough detail to fully understand the validity of this statement. Would be interested in your insight on this, care to elaborate? The way I see it is that Overstreet set the standard by which grading companies should be judged; IMO CGC has deviated farther from those standards, specifically in creating profit-driven standards. |
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| I hate to say this but CBCS is in this for money as well. Whaaaaa???? The devil you say! BURN THE WITCH!!! They may be a little more customer focused than CGC is and they may be capitalizing on being the anti-CGC right now, but if you think CBCS isn't interested in profits, then you're naive. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa You'd think people could just be happy they now have a viable alternative and stop all the axe grinding. Competition was long overdue. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jerkfro Lol not the point at all, I dont believe I said anything even close to that.. Everyone is interested in $$$, thats the entire point of business. Compromising product and changing standards in the name of profits is not cool. Read the post again. |
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| This thread has the feeling of having run its course. | ||
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| I have no knowledge of Overstreet the man to say anything about him. However Overstreet the book is a collaboration between many minds, including that of Steve Borock at CBCS, and folks at CGC. These companies might not be strictly adhering to OSGG (at least not openly), but their minds definitely influence the publishing of OSGG. So I don't think the book is behind the times at all. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Why do you assume I was talking specifically to only you? I didn't quote you. Lots of people on this board act as if CGC is the Empire to CBCS's Rebellion. Looks like the company that makes Kool Aid will be seeing a spike in profits. And where is the proof, not speculation, that CGC is "Compromising product and changing standards in the name of profits", or is that simply opinion? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jerkfro Post directly after mine that mentioned profits. If assumption was wrong that your post was in reference to mine in any way, then my apologies. Quote: Originally Posted by Jerkfro Here's the most common example for you.  |
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| @Jerkfro Do you think CGC is better or do you think CBCS is better at grading, and slabbing comics? Please do not provide an answer that vacillates between one company and the other. My answer is CBCS. |
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| I will say this if you plan on sending in a group of 15 books or more pre-1975 book for reselling there is no comparison it has to go to CGC. The price point are just too big of a difference $22.50 per book vs $27 per book. I think this is something CBCS needs to address and at least try to get in the ballpark. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle Including a free service would justify the higher cost.....maybe a free press or cleaning could help....and still allow someone to budget a submission. I'd consider it. I'd even be interested in a "one submission - one price" that would include the whole shebang of press, clean, grade, slab.... Of course this would have to be a bit lower than the individual charges combined. I honestly believe competition is much better when differing services or sales exist at times. It keeps me interested for one, it will bring in new customers and it will boost "word of mouth" to get new customers. *dream sequence begins to play out above his head* |
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