Dumpster Fire at CGC19558
I haven't aired it out. It's part of the provenance. | Galen130 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O And why are they called that??!! I'm pretty sure Isaac didn't approve of that term. Someone else CGC probably pissed off. |
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@Jesse_O Essentially, I pointed out that the pressing service could eventually render the grading service inaccurate, but that’s not depicted on the label either. |
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Why just the women? I like bears. | Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck A few weeks ago, they DID consider them a defect. |
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard Obviously not. Quality control still shipped them out as is. I could understand a few slipping through, but not hundreds or thousands. |
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Why just the women? I like bears. | Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
They ship 100s/1000s of slabs out with defects. | ||
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard Apparently. You said yourself, rings were considered defects a few weeks ago. |
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Why just the women? I like bears. | Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
And they were shipped out a few weeks ago. | ||
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard Okay. |
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Beaten by boat oars | Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck Indeed. |
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley Excelsior. |
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I have not set up at a con since 2029. | PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash One would continue paying his presser during the learning period, and use books that aren't valuable to learn on. Than one would start subbing books he pressed when he was able to competently press books. As far as lessening TAT's: .....you can pay for a submission of 10 modern(1975-present)grading plus fast tracked/quick streamed pressing and still wait months. What's that going to cost, not accounting for shipping? More than double what pressing the books yourself would cost, without waiting for your 3rd party presser or in house pressing at CBCS/CGC, to get to your books. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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One day we (sellers) will be on the hook for a Newton Ring scale numerical rating. Wouldn't that be cool? We have a company that grades a comic and then another company B comes along to give a numerical grade to the severity of the Newton rings. Im loving this. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 We need to start a slab grading company....we grade and slab the slab your comic is slabbed inside of. |
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I like bean sprouts. | James42 private msg quote post Address this user | |
So here's the thing I don't get about Newton rings: Newton rings appear because the layers of plastic in the slab are touching, and the types of plastic react optically in a sub-optimal manner. It seems like re-slabbing a comic with visible rings is a losing proposition, as the comic didn't get magically thinner and the slab didn't get magically bigger, so putting the same comic into an identical slab is going to eventually net the same result. None of my CGC slabs have obvious rings, but all my recent slabs are modern books, which are thinner than Golden Age books and smaller dimensionally than Silver Age. The worst examples I have seen are all older books. So if CGC cared (which they obviously don't), it seems like they could reduce the frequency of Newton rings by using more appropriately sized slabs. I could be totally off-base. But it seems like an easy solution, if expensive. |
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I'm a McNugget guzzler. | HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user | |
Do the rings smell like gasoline on water? I always liked that smell. | ||
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad. They do, but it’s just an “olfactory illusion”. |
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I don’t think any of my Golden Age books have Newton’s Rings. At least nothing noticeable. | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. | Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos I mean....CBCS is only 5 days. Takes them longer than that to respond to an email. |
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. | HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by James42I don’t think they truly know how to fix it. “Newton rings” appear in multiple fashions; the most common being the rainbowy oil slick rings, some like bubbles/air pockets and I had a super gross looking modern that was like a static cling decal that didnt go right. Obviously the cause is the 2 plastics touching, but don’t think know how to keep it from happening with theirs materials like PGX and CBCS magically can. |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by James42 They're on more modern books as well: |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
For sure they know how to fix it....they didn't always have Newton Rings....the mystery is why they choose not to fix it...that is the real head scratcher. | ||
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Why just the women? I like bears. | Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
"It'll cost how much to fix? Yeah, that's not gunna happen. Let's just tell people that they're not a defect and that they should just accept them." |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard I meant fix the slabs going forward...correct the root cause of the newton rings. Why CGC continues with the same slab design that causes the newton rings is beyond me. |
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. | Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@DrWatson Dang, that looks like an oil slick. Don't step in it... Would some Dawn help clean that up? |
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Feel free to use my post as a checklist. | multi007 private msg quote post Address this user | |
If you sell on Ebay, they allow returns for anything. Its best to be honest in the listing if there are NRs. You avoid returns, and the costs involved with returns. Many cases, ebay will allow the return AND make the seller pay for the return shipping. Its just best for everyone to mention the NRs in the description if they are there, and take specific pics of them if they are abundant. |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nearmint67 I use my Dawn to rescue baby ducks. |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck I didn't know illusions could smell or that we perceived Newton Rings with our nose. |
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Collector | codychunn private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nearmint67 Brillianize might. |
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Collector | codychunn private msg quote post Address this user | |
Newer pinball machines have printed plastic translights sandwiched against a piece of glass. These will often develop the same prismatic oil spill look. When they are removed, they make a crackling noise like static. If you clean the front of the translight and the rear of the glass (contact point) with Brillianize (an anti-static cleaner), the prismatic effect is reduced or removed. | ||
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