What you think is grade19334
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Plan on submitting this in June. the back has some weird markings. maybe inking issue? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
Assuming the speckles on the bottom back are common manufacturing remnants to that comic, and that the comic does not get pressed: CBCS 9.2 - 9.4 CGC 9.6 - 9.8 PGX 9.8 |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator even with those back marks? could be printing mark as it doesnt look like like a pen. looks like a print of a mark (checked other copies online dont have such). But 9.4 is what I figured before noticing. even though been a member for over a year. still learning what to look out for though could at worst be considered stains. my amazing spider-man #365 came back with "stains on logo" in the grader notes |
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
Without a doubt if those markings are post distribution, CBCS will mark down. If manufacturing, they may not, but I could be wrong. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator but the 9.4 is based on that? thats fine with me. those werent caused by me. i think I got comic for a good price at a convention. maybe why. I think even if a 9.0 Id get it graded. heck even 8.0. Im a fan of the dinobots especially Grimlock (its their first full appearance) and thats why I got it when had the chance several years ago. I never noticed them till literally right before posting this. wanted to make sure no bends, or corner crunch or a tiny tear. |
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looks better than mines i'll say 9.6 good luck.i'm learning | ||
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grapeape private msg quote post Address this user | |
It's a very sweet 9.2 or 9.4. Beautiful white pages. Key book for your personal collection. Come back to the thread and let us know the final grade please! | ||
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lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user | |
In my old age, I can't see if there are any spine tics on the front. If not, I'd say 9.0. If you're pressing, it could go higher. I agree with @Scifinator about the marks on the back. That's a big question mark that can definitely affect the grade. Also, not sure it's light reflecting in the picture, but on the inside cover, it looks like it has some sort of marking or crease or something. Can't tell for sure. You've also got a tiny bit of blunting on the bottom of the spine. I would definitely have it pressed. Good luck! |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
i doubt ill press. already planning on spending a lot to get it graded and 3 others. i think it will be a decent grade regardless. but will check with cbcs with their opinion at convention about those marks. | ||
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 i double checked. lighting |
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lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@power_struggle55 ok, that's good news. If no spine tics, then I'm sticking at 9.2/9.4 (as long as those marks on the back are a manufacturing error). It's a nice book, and, FYI, I never give an estimated grade on the forum higher than 9.4. (I just don't think it can be done without seeing the book first hand). Anyway, IMO, it's always better to have lowered expectations and see a higher grade come back at the end. ![]() |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 just the way the mark are..there are tiny ones as well as the big one near it. I think manufacturer. regardless will grade |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 I understand I looked out for corner bends (my amazing spider-man #4 aka first silk had one so dropped in grade which wasnt only issue) or spine stress (another comic had such on back) or corner crush (a comic Im grading as well in june has such) or a small tiny piece missing on side. I have 5 graded comics 2 9.8s, a 9.2, a 9.0 and a 8.0. I look at the graders notes for the none 9.8s look what they mean then compare any future possible with those, Im not perfect but i think I can make decent educated guesses. |
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mine was a 6.5 | ||
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
looking at the actual comic closely. it doesnt look like if a marker or a pen touched the back cover. so I think printing error. will still bite the bullet and submit it june. if Im right, grade such be pretty good. If not. it still looks good enough (i have a amazing spider-man #4 aka first silk with a 8.0. biggest issues are a fold on upper left corner of back and missing digital code sticker) but still looks good overall | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by power_struggle55Do the black spots feel smooth or rough on the back? |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips feels smooth. on the inside of the back looks normal (i believe if pen it would have some effect). why I think its a printing error |
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
too small for marker and doesnt look live if it was a pen. plus if pen there'd be an imprint on the inside i feel if it was a marker like someone dabbed would be bigger. if pen there'd be as said something on the other end. also feel if it was lets a kid drawing. I doubt that make an incomplete connect the dots. the way the big dot looks is almost like its meant to be there in terms of when image was printed onto it...it was added as well. live ink (is after the fact) |
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With the "Impression" marks on the cover and the print debris on the back I don't believe the book gets into the NM grades. 9.0 VFN/NM at best IMHO | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator No, look closer. At first glance, yeah I’d say 9.4 and 9.6 if pressed. 1/ Multiple finger bends , especially evident on the BC. Look closer at the ink reflectivity and you’ll see them, they are pretty pronounced. 2/ Fairly deep & color breaking spine tick on FC, around 2,5” under the price box. 3/ Slight stacking curl on the spine. Most of those finger bends will require spot pressing to fully remove. And some may lightly break ink on the BC. Without better pics, it’s a 9.0/9.2, may be slightly worse. Best case scenario, it’s a 9.6 if spot pressed & full book pressed. That’s of course if the ink marks aren’t dinged as post production defects. If so, it’s about an 8.0 & not worth pressing & slabbing. Sell it raw at $40 and let some other sap think he’ll pull a 9.6/9.8 if pressed and slabbed. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944 ok they are print debris. i had no idea what they were called. Im stilling going to get it graded whether you are right. 8.0 I am fine with. i dont think post production defects. i think it looks good enough for me |
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Before you send it in to grading, either send it to a professional cleaner and presser, or do some light cleaning yourself (artisian white eraser MIGHT get up those specks). If you go the eraser route, use a piece of cotton pad to lightly buff the areas you erased also. And BE CAREFUL. Also take seller's gradings as "guesses".... Ive been disappointed many times where I bought a book that was advertised as a 9.4 or better, and it came back 8.5 to 9.0. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by multi007 Im not made of money so pressing is out of question and if I tried cleaning would make it worst. but yeah had that happen. had a a comic thought would be 9.8 or 9.6 came as a 9.0 (I didnt notice spine tics) or one I assumed would be a 9.6 (had digital copy sticker removed) come back a 8.0 because I dint notice a corner fold. Ill be happy with almost any grade. comic looks good. if it gets a 9.2-8.0 Ill be happy. doubt its a 4.0 or something. yeah pressing will defiantly help but I already plan on spending a good amount to get this and 3 others graded Im holding off asking opinion on grade of the other 3 (Booster Gold #1 which looks good. no marks, Infinite Crisis #3 which does look good that I can tell and #5 which also looks good but has a small corner spine crunch) |
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I think you should grade it. Then you will know, it won't eat at you. Normally I wouldn't send books like this unless I was sure of 9.2 up. But you like this book for your collection so why not? | ||
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by grapeape i agree. i might be disapointed or I might not. |
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multi007 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@power_struggle55 I fully understand where you’re coming from. Have to do what you feel comfortable with. Bottom line enjoy the hobby.![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by multi007 im going to stop posting asking opinions about grade. it will cause me doubts if I want to grade a comic I like. if it looks bad...its bad. if it looks good it looks good. there will be a in between (like this) |
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grapeape private msg quote post Address this user | |
Please don't get discouraged. Let the experts grade and live with the result. This is supposed to be fun. I appreciate you bringing your potential submission forward. We all learn. |
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