What do you want in your wallet...errr Collection? CBCS vs CGC19330
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| You pick it. And feel free to proffer your grades. Graders notes: Very light creasing to cover Very light soiling on cover Very light spine stress lines to cover   OR Graders notes: Few small spine stress barely breaks color Tiny spine corner wear breaks color Two 3/4" spine bends bottom back cover   Unfortunately, these were taken by different scanners. I believe the first set was enhanced. One of these two is going to be placed for sale at MCS. Both were graded within the last year. |
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| I dunno, that top one looks like it's been cleaned or bleached or something. Somehow looks 'artificial'. | ||
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| @codychunn - I believe it the scan was digitally enhanced. | ||
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| The top one is CGC. You can see the newton ring on the cover. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by gecon LOL!! You're right!!! I wonder if that's why it was enhanced. They tried to minimize the Newton rings!!! 🤣🤣🤣  |
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| UPDATED to include 2nd set of Graders Notes Quote: Originally Posted by Scifinator |
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| I’ll take the less expensive one. | ||
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| So now we have both sets of Graders notes and it is clear the top has newton rings in the middle of the cover. But, which would you rather have in your collection? Also, both have at least "White Pages" quality. |
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 No rust here...
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| @Scifinator I would prefer the bottom copy with the potentially pressable bends on the back cover. They appear to be in the 7.5 to 8.5??? |
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| As long as the discoloration on the top one is caused by Newton rings, I'd go with the top one. I like the staples to actually go through the spine and not be obviously visible on either cover. If it's actually discoloration on the top one (which I don't think it is), I'd pick the bottom one. Just my 2 cents. |
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| @Scifinator - I can’t really make a call based on the pictures or graders notes. The bottom one seems a little cleaner, based on the back covers. If you already have both, I would put them side by side and pick whichever one presents better (assuming that they are the same grade or very close in grade). There have been a few cases where I keep a slight lower-graded book over the higher graded one because of how they presented. | ||
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 I blame the forum gremlins.
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo I do this. I'll take a book with vivid cover colors over one that's faded. I'm willing to give up to two grade points for this at the low end, and one in the middle to upper grades. |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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| Tough. Bottom one has bad corners but the top one has a misaligned cover, a pet peeve of mine, and soiling. Bottom. Depending on grade. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nearmint67 @Nearmint67 - The Bottom is already pressed. @SteveRicketts applied his craft and bumped it 7 levels up. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo Honestly, this is a case whereby I am probably going to keep the "lower" grade in my collection. |
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| So, here is some more...color...if you will: The page qualities are: Top - White Bottom - Exceptional White |
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 I'm a #2.
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| #1 Newton Ring has nothing to do with grade of the book (Newton rings are on CBCS slabs as well) #2 I don't care if its CGC or CBCS #3 I Absolutely despise off centered covers The bottom one with the straight cover for me please |
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Now for the rest of the story. The top was a recent auction win that was to potentially be an upgrade in my collection. I despise oil slick newton rings and dislike how cgc’s labels detract from focus on the comic. So my intention was to have CBCS regrade. But with cgc consistently overgrading and witnessing CBCS undergrading of recent I fear the 9.4 cgc coming back from CBCS at 8.5 or 9.0. So, i am thinking i will send in to MCS for sale.  The comic below was acquired late last year as a 6.0 raw $65 purchase in need of @SteveRicketts services. Recently got it back from CBCS with grade of 9.0 Exceptional White.  |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The CGC copy has soiling, while the CBCS copy has larger bends to consider. Since the CBCS one is a lower grade and much cheaper, I'd go there. Edit: I didn't notice the wrap before. CBCS copy, for sure. |
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| For those that mentioned the wrap, i have to say i think they are pretty equal. I believe that due to suspected digital enhancement, the inner well on the left side is giving the illusion of being white miswrap on the right side. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator I agree the wraps are the same. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| The CGC book has a miswrap on the spine. The white is widest at the bottom and tapers as you go up. | ||
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@GAC - i hear what you are saying. At first glance from the scan, it looks like white spine, but it is actually white background through the clear. What appears to be the edge of the comic is actually the inner well.  |
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| You can also see the staples. | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| @Scifinator You are correct!! I stand corrected! Wow....what an illusion there.....this is another example of advantages of having a book in hand. I swear I'd put money on that being a miswrap....it is not. |
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| How about those two manufacturing splotches above and below the price box. While i don't think CBCS would mark down for those, it does catch my eye and as such almost makes the 9.0 cleaner to me. | ||
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Here is a new comparison: Which would you rather have? Do close ups on the edges, especially the top and bottom.  |
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator I hate corner creases, but that edge crease on the 7.5 is a big one. Running parallel to the edge helps on the scan, but I wonder how much it stands out in hand. |
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Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Another comparison with back cover images.    |
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