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Tales of Suspense 39 vs. Tales of Suspense 3919299

I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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When the answer to any question is likely at least half the population aren't all that bright/savvy or have dumbass tunnel vision, then everything begins to make complete sense.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
I don't know for certain but there does appear to be an uninformed bias against CBCS. That's a positive when buying CBCS slabs but a negative when selling.
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I have been bidding on a few books in that auction (won’t say which)


Don't leave us hanging.


In the (highly) unlikely event I win something, I promise to post here.

In fact, if I do, I may take the extremely unusual step of even selling some of my books…
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I don't know for certain but there does appear to be an uninformed bias against CBCS. That's a positive when buying CBCS slabs but a negative when selling.


Would you rather have the book with (what appears to be) a rusty staple (or two) or Newton’s rings in this case?

To me the CGC book is the better copy here. It has better centering too.

White pages vs rusty staples at that high a grade…
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I don't know for certain but there does appear to be an uninformed bias against CBCS. That's a positive when buying CBCS slabs but a negative when selling.


Would you rather have the book with a rusty staple (or two) or Newton’s rings in this case?

To me the CGC book is the better copy here. It has better centering too.

White pages vs rusty staples at that high a grade…


Good point...rusty staples are a turn off for many collectors. It'll be interesting where they both end. One hears that "CGC sells for more than CBCS" so often that one starts to think maybe it's true. I'd like to see these bigger books in CBCS cases sell for higher when there's a directly competing listing.
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In the home stretch. The CGC book has a sizable lead. I think it is clearly the nicer copy but I certainly wouldn’t pay the amount of premium implied at the moment.

With just over 3 hrs:
CGC 7.0 at $19k
CBCS 7.0 at $12k

My guess is the gap will shrink but not fully close.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
@Davethebrave That's an insane gap, basically over who the grading company was.
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@Davethebrave That's an insane gap, basically over who the grading company was.


Agree but I expect it to largely close.

I also think some gap in favor of the CGC book is warranted. It is better centered, most defects on back cover, and clean (not rusty) and better aligned staples.
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Hmm... Moderated again! figment private msg quote post Address this user
And down the stretch they come!




Get your popcorn ready for the live bidding session at the end of the proxy period.
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Feel free to use my post as a checklist. multi007 private msg quote post Address this user
I’ve read and watched several videos where the opinions of the authors are CGC grades more strict than cbcs, and if you send in a cbcs 9.8 to CGC, it will come back a 9.6.

If that is the general consensus in comic book land, that might explain the price disparities here.

I’m not experienced enough to agree or disagree though.
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There are as many grades as there are graders and defects. Text or numbers they are both subjective to the grader's state of mind. Liberal one day, conservative the next. It is an ANALOG system with infinite points on a number line.

Then you have to monetize that assessment which is another analog number with feathered edges (price haggling). Regardless of perceived condition we place the value on the item of what we will spend. The sellers didn't price the books, the buyers did.

I think any disparity between grading companies realized final sales is a CONFIDENCE issue and should either normalize or see one company restructure or fold.

-opinion-
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Well, the book I was after (AC7) slipped through my fingers as I did a few minutes of yard work.

On the bright side, saved myself $300 (the quote from a neighborhood kid to rake up some sticks from hedge and bush pruning I did the other day).

Took me about 30 mins. During that time got the alert the issue was going to live auction soon and I missed it. It sold just under my limit so I consider this a “miss” due to my negligence.

Buyer did very well.

TOS39 7 vs 7 is fun to watch but my only real interest was seeing if I could snag one of my favorite GA covers at a very reasonable price…
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Maybe the lawn care kid bought the book. $600/hr isn’t too shabby.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
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Maybe the lawn care kid bought the book. $600/hr isn’t too shabby.


Is he hiring lol...
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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Maybe the lawn care kid bought the book. $600/hr isn’t too shabby.


He's probably the General Contractor. Was going to sub it out for $100 and keep $200 for his efforts.
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$24k CGC 7.0
$20k CBCS 7.0
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Davethebrave do you think the CGC copy was $4K better than the CBCS copy?
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@Davethebrave do you think the CGC copy was $4K better than the CBCS copy?


More importantly, it seems the buyer did.
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
I'll take the raw copy I got for a buck 20 years ago 👍
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Hmm... Moderated again! figment private msg quote post Address this user
Photo finish not required.

Was it a case of market perception? A rusty staple despite white pages? A crazed audience?

Only the buyers know for sure.


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Looks like CGC won this one.
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@Davethebrave do you think the CGC copy was $4K better than the CBCS copy?


No.

I do think it was $2k better. Or some amount of premium was warranted because it was the nicer book overall. Even if both were fairly graded.

Since I wasn’t the high bidder (on either) my opinion doesn’t really matter though, does it?

The Action Comics 7 1.8 “green label” I was actually trying to win should, in my opinion, be worth 2x either of these books. Yet I didn’t end up winning that one either. Despite the value I see in it.

So my opinion really doesn’t matter.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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@Davethebrave do you think the CGC copy was $4K better than the CBCS copy?


No.

I do think it was $2k better. Or some amount of premium was warranted because it was the nicer book overall. Even if both were fairly graded.

Since I wasn’t the high bidder (on either) my opinion doesn’t really matter though, does it?

The Action Comics 7 1.8 “green label” I was actually trying to win should, in my opinion, be worth 2x either of these books. Yet I didn’t end up winning that one either. Despite the value I see in it.

So my opinion really doesn’t matter.


Collector opinions matter.

That's a big difference in price.
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Collector jeffreyk1965 private msg quote post Address this user
About the difference I expected in a vintage book. Around 20 to 25%. Both are nice books.
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About the difference I expected in a vintage book. Around 20 to 25%. Both are nice books.


You’d expect a 20-25% premium as a matter of course? Seems an odd general expectation unless you think CGC is a much stricter grader.
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Collector Broker1 private msg quote post Address this user
I think the difference is just based on what the market bears for the different grading services. Expecting that based on past data is logical.
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I think the difference is just based on what the market bears for the different grading services. Expecting that based on past data is logical.


No, it isn’t.

Unless there is a perceived difference in grading.

In this case the CGC 7 book looked better.
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I think the difference is just based on what the market bears for the different grading services. Expecting that based on past data is logical.


No, it isn’t.

Unless there is a perceived difference in grading.

In this case the CGC 7 book looked better.


Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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I think the difference is just based on what the market bears for the different grading services. Expecting that based on past data is logical.


No, it isn’t.

Unless there is a perceived difference in grading.

In this case the CGC 7 book looked better.


Whatever you need to tell yourself.


LOL
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