CGC vs CBCS values???19030
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SidTheSquid private msg quote post Address this user | |
| One area where I think CBCS was smart; they probably realized they couldn't compete with CGC's 20 day TAT on modern books, so they focused on getting Vintage TATs down. CBCS is now 8 weeks for Vintage while CGC is about 1 year. | ||
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by teacha777 They cost more, take longer, and sell for less. Winning!  |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster @OGJackster - Best comp is the 9.2 to which both have 2022 sales. And interestingly, the CBCS has the higher sold price. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics Don't forget about the gift grades. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders This has to be the case. As I've mentioned before, it makes no sense at all that the staff of a company can continuously take part in the various cover contest threads while completely ignoring the hundreds of absent CS threads.... unless their hands are tied. Doubt anyone from Beckett reads this forum but it would be nice if they did. |
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros I've heard unflattering things about Beckett's CS, too. They probably restructured CBCS's CS and now it sucks as much as theirs does. I also understand that it's Beckett's policy to offer no shipping options aside from FedEx, so we can thank them for that BS, too. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros I can see them ignoring customer service requests if customer service isn't their job. Plus, they aren't at work 24/7. At least they are a part of the community instead the right old twats that some of the higher ups at various grading companies can be. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson A higher up saying "not my problem" doesn't seem very inviting and I'm sure they prefer you keep that quiet. CGC has a middleman between the forums and staff. He gets answers for people. I guess I'd appreciate that more than playing guess the cover games with the higher ups while 50% of the forum members keep repeating how there is zero customer service. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics Couldn't agree more. It's too bad they don't have the support behind it, and, didn't find a way to advance at all when people were fed up with CGC's long, Covid-induced TATs. I saw so many people on IG angrily saying they were moving to CBCS because of CGC's issues. I think they all went back. |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros No one in moderation is a paid employee. The two Steve are the only CBCS employees (past or current) that I know who routinely post on the boards. Are they the ones you are intent on calling out? Neither one has ever told a board member that something wasn't their problem. I know both Steve's have gone out of their way to assist people when they could. However, at the end of the day, it isn't the job they are/were being paid to do. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I will never forget that forum guy CGC Mike defending the acetate cover during acetate-gate. Don't care if he's an employee just reciting a canned answer. Don't care what he was told. He sounded like a real jackass with his initial response. I trust that dude as much as I trust a cobra |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson I stated there is no help from staff in the forum despite their presence. You don't have to work so hard confirming this or finding reasons. Like I said, the only one that makes sense is tied hands. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 In fairness, he was asked what CGC had to say for itself and he found out. He was just repeating what his bosses told him to, instead of ignoring the complaints. He will help people out who come there with problem slabs. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros I'm pretty sure I help people here quite often. Can you go through my posts and find where I told someone something was "not my problem"? |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts You may do just that. I am only referring to the numerous posts where that doesn't happen. And no, I would not go through anyone's posts nor did I ever mention your name or claim you ever said that. Someone else tried to imply I did. I was responding facetiously to: "I can see them ignoring customer service requests if customer service isn't their job." If that is in fact true, that's a more interesting topic. |
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YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID! |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @OGJackster No, but you can usually profit off of it. | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Comiclink shouldn't have run two 9.8s of the same book in the same auction, regardless of grading company. It's a disservice to the seller. | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| In my opinion CBCS should offer significantly better pricing for books with FMV over $1,000. Getting more of these type of books into CBCS slabs has a market awareness value for CBCS and it gives the brand more prestige. Even with steep discounts from current pricing, the revenue from grading 10 of these type books could be similar to the revenue from grading 50 moderns. | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well, the cases are clearly better on the Batman/Harley Quinn CGC And the labels are soooo much better. And the brand.. I mean c'mon... it's CGC. The world leader. They're both (likely) accurately graded, but who cares? That's not really important. The extra $200 makes total sense in the grand scheme.     |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRickettsMost definitely, Steve is extremely helpful every time he's on here. He does a lot for the people on these forums. He is always looking up people's orders to give them the most up to date status, provides valuable information on what's happening behind the scenes, he even saw a post I made about an address label I found on the front page of a comic I was wanting to get graded (I was trying to decide if I should try to remove it) and he offered to remove it for me if I got pressing on it (which I did, it was delivered to CBCS just before Christmas). Like I have said before, you're the best Steve! |
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MurrayC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Of the books that I had graded by CBCS with the intent to sell (to generate funds to buy books I needed), I've gotten full fair market value or very close to. | ||
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by MurrayC It really comes down to the book. I think people trust that a modern 9.8 by either company is the same book. I think Golden Age is a little different. I think people assume CGC has the handle on grading old books because they market it so well. When old books hit record sales it's always a CGC label so I think people equate the two. When a collection is found and given a Pedigree name, they market it big time. CGC does a great job posting those record books, etc. all over social media and in email. They simply work hard at it. Now, maybe you'll say yours were GA, but for the most part I think what I stated is true. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| "When old books hit record sales it's always a CGC label so I think people equate the two." In general, CGC has had a 15 year headstart. This is why the majority of older books are in CGC slabs because they were the only game in town at the time (PGX doesn't count). Third party grading originated out of a need to impartially grade and assess vintange/older books. I would hazard a guess that a very significant percentage of important/key vintage books were graded by CGC when there was no other choice. So, this is exactly why sales records and news about vintage books will likely carry a CGC label...they have the luxury of being first.....for a long time. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Of course. I was just pointing out the reality of it. People see the CGC label, not any of the others. But even in the current day, these high quality collections get sent to CGC (like Promise), instead of to the other companies, and despite their botched up efforts with overgrading and missed cover replacements, the marketing hype shows CGC labels. As much as I dislike them and certainly don't trust them.. they will always have the name recognition working for them. They will always, in general, be worth more because of it. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros It would be interesting to know, historically speaking, if a #2 marketshare company has ever overtaken the #1 company. I believe Pepsi or Dr. Pepper was first to market before Coca Cola but I believe Coca Cola is the #1 soft drink company...I could be wrong though. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I think Coke is the #1 pop (soda for the weirdos) but as for companies, I think PepsiCo could be larger due to the brands it owns. It was at some point anyway. As for your question, there was a time when Apple struggled behind Microsoft. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| How about Ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. Our predecessors were stuck with their unreliable crap for 50 years and forced to eat their crap. Then the Asian companies rolled in with reliability and forced them to fix their sh#t and uncaring ways. We need that in this industry to stop the incompetence from these two companies. Competition does that. Else they'll just keep doing what they do. Well keep complaining and nothing changes. It's unacceptable from both. Fix the systemic problems companies. Fix em |
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