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| 2023 Canadian Price Variant (NEWSSTAND)Guide Released Online The new 2023 edition of the free online guide caters to collectors interested in Canadian Price Variant ("CPV"  newsstand comics from Marvel (10/1982-8/1986), DC (10/1982-9/1988), and other publishers. Back in 2010, historian and Senior Overstreet Advisor Jon McClure introduced the term “Type 1A” to describe this type of cover price variant, in his article “A History of Publisher Experimentation and Variant Comic Books” in The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide #40. Collector interest in Type 1A Price Variant comics has continued to build since then, and Jon’s updated variant article was published in The Overstreet Guide to Grading Comics Sixth Edition in 2021.In 2017, McClure, fellow Senior Overstreet Advisor Doug Sulipa, Overstreet Advisors Bill Alexander and Paul Clairmont, and historian Angelo Virone, in collaboration with Benjamin Nobel of the Rare Comics Blog, released the first edition of their CPV guide. In subsequent years, the team was joined by Tim Bildhauser, formerly with CBCS as their International Comics Specialist, and Conan Saunders, President at MyComicShop.com. This year, the team is joined by Jayden Mitchell, proprietor of CaptCan Comics, and Dr. Greg Holland, Overstreet Advisor and writer for GPAnalysis. The new guide edition features original articles contributed by top Type 1A researchers in the hobby, with this year’s highlights including a look at Charlton CPVs by Stephen Cranch, an exploration of Beetlejuice CPVs by Salvatore Miceli, and a discussion of UKPVs by James Gilbreath. With new price guide articles by Doug Sulipa this year, the guide’s publisher coverage has expanded to include Harvey and Whitman CPVs. And with thanks to GPAnalysis for contributing their CPV sales data, a newly updated article by Greg Holland analyzes the recent marketplace sales of CGC-graded CPVs. In total, fourteen brand-new articles are presented this year. Benjamin Nobel stated, “With over 5 million cumulative hits to date, interest in our online guide has been riding the larger wave of growing collector interest in newsstand comics. With CGC’s recent announcement that newsstand comics will now be officially recognized on their labels going forward, this can only build even more collector awareness about the US-published 1980’s cover price variant newsstand comics that exist out there, especially those in our guide’s Top 100 list.” Together the collaboration team today announces the official release of their 6th guide edition, The 2023 CPV Price Guide for Canadian Price Variants (Type 1A), available to read without cost. It has been published online at cpvpriceguide.com.  |
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| That's great, thanks for sharing! | ||
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| Nice!! I have a few CPV books and I'd like to get a few more someday. Good to know what to expect, price-wise. | ||
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@sly awesome post, that's an amazing site.  And here it is  : Another photo with it's non-canadian companions.  |
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| I have this site bookmarked and didn't even think to reference it while tracking the slew of CPVs in various auctions the last few days. Won't be making that mistake again. | ||
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Only have photos of a couple of my CPVs (I have maybe a whopping half-dozen).  |
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| Glad info about the Charltons was finally released; on to Gold Keys!! I own nearly 1,000 DC CPV issues, and still working on completing more titles. I have also been working on UKPVs, DC and Howard the Duck issues. The worst part was treasuries from both DC & Marvel have been excluded. I keep hoping for just a catalog of things where prices are not known, but examples are known to exist. | ||
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| @Danno Some great CPVs in a couple of auctions this week. I'm looking forward to the end of the October auction and especially November 17th where ComicLink is going to auction off some really great key Canadian Price Variants in 9.6 and 9.8 in the top 100. I'm going after 2 or 3 myself. Look at some of the cool stuff they have at the link below: clickable text |
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| @sly There definitely is! I was tracking the Thor 337 CPVs tonight and decided to pass on the CGC 8.5 one right as the lot was coming to a close. Will probably regret it, but I'm eyeing some other books this week and next. | ||
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@Byrdibyrd Hey, I have a CGC 9.6 CPV of that Super-Villain Classics book! It was my first-ever CPV acquisition.  |
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| @Danno NICE! I don't think mine will grade that high. I'm hoping for a 9.0 but if it's a little lower I'll survive. |
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| I'd like to ask a question (that probably has an obvious answer). Feel free to roll your eyes. Assuming you bought all your comics new, unless you were in Canada when you bought them, you don't have any CPVs? |
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| Some CPVs did sell in the USA according to some collectors who bought them when they first came out. Makes sense to have supply sent to areas with more demand than supply. | ||
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| There were not supposed to be any CPV sales in the USA or elsewhere, since prices were not the same. | ||
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| Interesting segment of the market. Not something I’d ever pay a premium to own. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by cyrano0521 Reasonable comment, yet neither one of us could really confirm or not if this was the case. However, we all know that certain issues were discounted individually or sold as multi-packs back then. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sly Yes, most likely those copies were the returnable's. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave I guess that's what makes a market, those willing to pay a premium for variant covers, price variants, newsstands and those that do not. Personally, I always aim for the scarcer edition of an issue as opposed to the one with thousands of graded copies that everyone has in high grade. For me it's simply common sense. This is why I always aim to secure myself Canadian Price Variants (CPVs), UKPVs, APVs,30c, 35c price variants, etc... Over time, in my opinion, these are the comics that should gain more in value (example, as seen with Star Wars 35c Price Variants and key Canadian Price Variants). Considering we are discussing books that are published and printed in the USA, printed at the same times as their Newsstand and Direct counterpart, then scarcity will be the driving factor for issues that are in demand. Lets imagine there was a specific Ferrari model that produced a total of 1099 cars. 99 of those produced have a very special and unique signature feature and the remaining 1000 having NO UNIQUE signature feature? Which one of those two versions would probably gain more in value with collectors who seek only the best-of-the-best when it comes to investing? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MurrayC MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE |
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| A speedo in km or mph doesn't drive value. Pun intended. Buy cpv and then rely on convincing others of some value. It sounds an awful like trying to manufacture demand. I’ll pass. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave You are correct, a Speedo in Km or MPH doesn't drive value, however, a model Ferrari with a unique feature will drive prices up when only 99 of the 1099 produced have that feature Look at the prices CPV's have been getting over and over on top key books in very high grades. GPA shows higher prices compared to direct and Newsstands for many of these issues. This occurs because supply is limited and demand is high ( CGC and CBCS Census also shows fewer CPV's than direct editions by a large margin), thus the prices increase when these books do show up for sale. Demand is real and not fabricated. Too many CPV's have sold on the market for anyone to contol, they've been selling for good money for years. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself the stats on GPA and GoCollect. Even E-bay shows you what they sell for. Heritage just sold a second copy of ASM 238 in 9.8 CPV for $8,100. Stats with thousands of sales clearly indicate a real pattern. |
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| Is this a marketing pitch? A speedometer being different by region (and rarer in some regions) is a decent analogy. I’ve seen periods of hype die fizzle. I won’t pay a penny more - American or Canadian - for a CPV book, other than being able to flip it to someone else. That tells me the only demand (for me, and likely much of the market) is purely speculative. Makes it likely unsustainable. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Davethebrave, I get it, for whatever reasons you have, CPVs are not your thing. We are all entitled to our own opinions on these boards. However, when any of us posters make certain statements (see below in bold) in a public forum without backing them up with facts, we run the risk of steering newbies who might confuse opinions for facts. "Buy cpv and then rely on convincing others of some value. It sounds an awful like trying to manufacture demand." "That tells me the only demand (for me, and likely much of the market) is purely speculative. Makes it likely unsustainable." |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sly This can definitely be A Thing. Personally, I like CPVs (and UKPVs and foreign variants in general), but it doesn't bother me that others aren't interested. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sly Right, so providing one viewpoint is better? Can you cite facts supporting a CPV is more desirable -other than- its scarcity or potential for value appreciation? Do some people like the look of them better? Same with barcodes. If not, then isn’t the primary value basis that others must recognize and attach value to the scarcity (even in the absence of that scarcity having some significant intrinsic value?) I never said the prices aren’t higher or will not go higher. They very well may. Typically price movements based on these artificially sliced segments are temporary. Temporary can be years (90s comic cover variants). But for every 100 attempts to create such demand 5 may stick (illustrative only) and be permanent or semi-permament. They can become their own collecting niches. Because of the above I consider paying premiums here (especially lofty ones) speculating. That is perfectly fine. I’d rather provide a balancing view when participants in guides of this type often (usually) have vested interests. Or do none of the guide participants own CPV books or deal in them? Rhetorical. |
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| The CPVs, UKPVs, APVs, and regular newsstand collectors make up a niche market within the comic collecting community. Do I buy price variants for Canada and the UK? Yes, I do, but only when it is for whatever I am collecting at the time. I have a high grade run of Uncanny X-Men CPVs and am working on a UKPV run (nowhere near as high grade) of X-Men. Will I pay premium on it? If I feel the condition warrants it, then yes. The CPVs are rarer in nice condition, and the collectors of them (like US newsstand collectors) can be a little more rabid when it comes to acquiring whatever issue. CPV runs I'm working on: Dazzler, Thing, Transformers I don't give a monkey's nutsack about collectible cars or if talking Malibu Stacy gets a new hat or not, I just collect what I like. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Davethebrave, You missed my point again. You write, " Right, so providing one viewpoint is better? " Everyone has the right to a viewpoint and if it differs that's fine in my books. However, when you state that a certain segment is manipulated or speculative you should back up that claim with something more concrete to offer real value to your thoughts. We run the risk that our opinions here might be mistakenly taken as facts by others. You mention, " Can you cite facts supporting a CPV is more desirable -other than- its scarcity or potential for value appreciation? Do some people like the look of them better? Same with barcodes." I have provided facts in my previous reply to support what I said. Look at GPA, GoCollect, Ebay, ComicLink, Heritage, MyComicShop, etc... in the last 5-6 years. Thousands of CPVs sold for record prices getting premiums over their direct counterpart. Why do you think? Because they are more desirable to those who are actually buying them! Is that not proof? This alone is the only proof needed. It has nothing to do if whether some people like the look of them better barcode or not. It's all about people paying higher premiums for certain key books and the proof is in the pudding when 3rd parties such as GPA, E-Bay prove that has been the case for years. |
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