What's Your Preferred Type of Musical Genius?18485
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia I have seen Santana live. Great show. He has his own sound. Gilmour, Santana, SRV, and many other icons are recognizable from a single note. So I’d say definitely respected - but “respected” can take different forms. Imitators can get close (KWS for SRV as a prime example) but were not the creators. There are many ways to inspire and make an impact. Some guitarists are genre snobs (jazz, classical) and others are musical athletes - everything is a race and you’re judged by pace. In those circles, Santana will be ignored. For non guitarists (and even guitarists, depending on ability, knowledge, maturity, etc) it is hard to separate the inspiration from ability. It also doesn’t matter. Kurt Cobain wrote great songs. Within the context of Nirvana he was a great guitarist. Neil Young, same thing. Could I sight read their music? Sure. Could I sight read Santana? Sure. Difficulty inspires guitarists but for listeners, who cares? I have been playing Gilmour solos for literally decades. Do I sound like him? No… not close. But I’d wager my cover of a Malmsteen or Satriani piece will be closer than he’d get. Means nothing. He’s an icon, a legend and I’m a basement dabbler. Some guitarists forget this (not saying fellow axe slingers on this thread). Finally (well, maybe not) many people will have a hard time knowing the hierarchy of difficulty. Van Halen may sound really impressive but an advanced player will recognize that a Petrucci piece is significantly more difficult. Again, doesn’t matter. It would be like judging visual art by the technique vs the output. I think that is also at the heart of @GAC’s point for this thread. I’d just emphasize there is a healthy dose of acquired taste (and knowledge) too. |
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An(other) aside. My daughter is not yet two and can strum a guitar and pick individual notes. I didn’t start guitar until I was much older than that. She faces zero pressure, just receives exposure to many instruments/music. Asks me to grab my guitar and tries to mimic what I do. With the information available out there today, access to affordable quality instruments, and maturation of electric guitar as an instrument, there will be generations of incredible axe slingers out there. They will be inspired by the greats of the past - across genres. Hopefully turning out some good music too! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Hetfield is a rhythm monster. Absolute monster, especially given his vocal duties while playing. |
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Can't leave out Roy Clark. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Great post!!!! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by makahuka As divisive as this guy is for his politics...I love 70s Nuge!!! That record is great!! |
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Not everyone's type of music, but some of my favorite music! Tommy Hamilton and Scott Metzger are some of the most amazing guitarists I have seen in a very long time! |
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Check out John Ziegler playing with some guy named Danny Carey on drums. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Also, the quality of most middle of the road priced guitars being built today is exponentially better that the same builds that existed in the when I was learning to play. I would have died and gone to heaven if I could have had afforded the build quality of a Korean built Kramer “The 84” in a guitar produced around 1984. To have gotten that same build quality it would have cost me $2 grand in the mid 1980’s. Heck, you can pick up pedals today for $30-60 that put the ones I’ve retired to shame. In case I forget, bluegrass flatpickers should get a shout out. Monster chops in the guys that have reached to top of that heap. In a way they did as someone tossed out Jerry Garcia’s name in the thread. He got his start in bluegrass music. |
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Bluegrass / flat picking is tops for chops. Then there are the acoustic/classical players generally. Flamenco as well. Paco De Lucia… I love Flamenco as a style but rarely casually listen to it. My guess is a modern Flamenco player could list a dozen or more players just as or more inspiring. Honestly, across genres/styles… tons of phenomenal players left off any list. For pure virtuosity (cross-genres) I would urge anyone curious to explore Shawn Lane. Not someone I enjoy listening to -that much- to be honest but musicianship that reflects some sort of genetic anomaly - almost like superpowers. I am being serious. |
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Andres Segovia... | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd @Byrdibyrd were you ever a fan of The Slits? |
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@makahuka Andres Segovia is a freakin' genius. Incredible musician. My grandfather was the photojournalist when Segovia agreed to an interview wa-a-a-a-ay back when. I have some negatives somewhere... ![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Yes, I was, and I still have at least one of their CDs (the vinyl is long gone ![]() |
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Richard Thompson Steve Hillage John McLaughlin Pat Metheny Roy Buchanan Trey Anastasio Jake Cinninger Brendan Bayliss Alejandro Escovedo Billy Strings Gary Kemp Michael McCready Adam Aijala Hound Dog Taylor Ed Wynne Markus Reuter Ted Nugent Alex Lifeson Jimmy Herring Derek Trucks Warren Haynes Ry Cooder Christian Peters Steve Kimock Hans Eiselt John Prine Chuck Garvey Al Schnier John Petrucci Beppe Gambetta Bucky Pizzarelli Frank Vignola Charlie Hunter Brandon "Taz" Niederaurer Daniel Donato Roosevelt Collier Martin Taylor Jorma Kaukonen Chris Smither Just to name a few |
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Chris Smither! I just saw him live. Incredible artist. | ||
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@ticktocktyler Richard Thompson has always been in my top 10! Seen him about 30 times! He is so underated!!!!!! |
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@Byrdibyrd My college instructor was able to get that once in a lifetime instruction from Andres Segovia, and played his video tape for us during a class. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd I saw the Damned in a club in Toronto and the Sex Pisols with Glen Matlock when they reunited in 1996 again in Toronto. LOVE classic punk rock! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Lucked out and saw the Damned at a local venue and they were great. I never managed to see the Sex Pistols live, but I'd jump at the chance. Punks tend to really put on a show. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd I got to see the Sex Pistols live around 2004 when they played at Inland Invasion with a bunch of other bands. I saw the Slits perform in Los Angeles in the 2000s despite knowing nothing about the band and having never heard a single song of theirs. Both were great shows. |
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@flanders The only classic UK punk band I've seen in concert is the Damned. I have seen similar era US punk bands/performers like Blondie and Joan Jett (both amazing live). |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sborock Same. Blown away every time, too. After seeing him, I stare at my guitar for 2 weeks blaming it for me not practicing. LOL! Richard Thompson is the world's best kept guitar virtuoso secret. I hope he remains that way. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler I’m guessing you don’t know the name of the world’s best kept guitar virtuoso secret. Just a guess. Also, why would you hope he remains that way? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave No arena concerts were you can't see the band up close or hear the music as well! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd I saw Blondie and Joan back in their prime when I lived in NYC, only in small venues. Great bands! |
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