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| All three movies were entertaining to some degree or another...I myself liked Black Widow....and the first Thor. All three pictures served as bridges to establish missing pieces and build the story arcs however. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave That 1bn figure you tossed out there appears to be another number you randomly chose, as has been noted in many of your posts of late. I am unsure what function it might serve or what the basis for giving that figure...but regardless it leads to the second point. The concept of 'an auto fan base ' would seem to suggest that the demise of the marvel universe with its renting of hair and shredding of clothes has not happened, if you know, as stated above, there is still an auto fan base....it cant be both ways ...so which is it? If there is a 'massive built in fandom' you cannot attempt to argue the marvel cinematic effort has hit some sort of ultimate demise. It either has fans or does not....and if they do exist and are supporting those movies, then any attempt to suggest judgement day has arrived is premature |
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| @Davethebrave Since this is a comic book forum, all to often, the fan boys here can’t grasp that the general viewing audience have started to get sick of superheroes, and that often seems like 90 percent of what Hollywood is throwing out there these days. How anyone can think that the viewing audience wants another Eternals movie is beyond me 🤷♂️ The first one’s breakdown Cost $200 million Marketing - ? But it weren’t cheap Box Office - $402 million world wide ————————————————- = A stinker Please Disney serve up some more of that cr-p. |
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| I'll take the actions of a multi-billion dollar corporation as evidence that people are still very much interested in superhero movies over anecodatal observations of people who are not fans of the genre. There is no denying:  Clearly.....alot of people like this stuff. I'm pretty confident their market research is a little more thorough. |
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| and nevermind that Disney has a fairly solid history of consistently building , holding and maintaining powerful movie franchises for multiple generations across a multitude of fan base types, and styles. I dont think every movie is going to be a blockbuster, but even those that do not get the box office play that others do, still generate a cash windfall of action figures, lunch boxes, lego sets, coloring books and dart boards. If people think the box office is all there is for these franchises and movies, theyb are clearly and totally missing the point of sales outside the theater that go DIRECTLY into the Mouse's pockets and coffers | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Since when did teasing the future become quality storytelling? Some seem to be focused on $$$$$, while we're discussing (lack of) quality. |
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| It seems that the negative view in this thread is "these aren't great quality movies and T.V. Shows, they are a letdown from the previous MCU". It seems that the positive view is not so much a disagreement as it's "the quality will come eventually, they know what they are doing". I think that a part of the problem is where the bar has been set. For example, Black Panther was a surprise massive hit that became a cultural phenomenon. There now is no chance for that to happen in Black Panther II, there is only the chance that it will be a surprise failure and disappointment. Where the previous MCU was full of pleasant surprises, this one, almost by definition will be more likely to have disappointments than surprises. But I do wonder, is anyone in this thread actually arguing that this current MCU is as good or better than the previous one? In comparing box office receipts, is the argument that Thor L&T was a better movie than The Iron Man? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Quality is 100% purely subjective. It is impossible (or maybe even pointless) to debate quality. If you like something and I dislike something...neither of us are going to change our opinions and no persons opinion is more valid than the other. This leaves $$$. It is the only true/valid data point to discuss popularity or what is considered "good" on the popular or mass conciousness. The masses love this stuff even if people with a higher or more refined "tastes" don't. I'm a huge Beatles fan.....The Backstreet Boys out sold the Beatles (insert your favourite artist). To me, I know the Beatles are better than the Backstreet Boys....but to the masses (at that time), using that metric, The Backstreet Boys were better....this is an over simplication though. |
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| I think People get to passionate about what they like and they will start to hate the things they like if something changes from what they liked about the things they liked. I am just happy they are able to crank these movies out every year. Also keep in mind they have to make these movies where someone that dosent know a thing about comic books will still be able to somewhat enjoy the movie. I think that’s were people that are Passionate about it will start to complain about it you see it even happens everytime a new Star Wars movie comes out the hardcore fans will say it’s not as good as this one or it was the worst one ever people love to hate what they are passionate about. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC That's not true. For example, a person with remotely 'normal' vision could easily detect the poor VFX work in much of Phase Bore. Plot and character logic are other objective measures for determining the quality of a movie, too. Aftermarket revenue (disc/digital) may be an indicator, but considering that you must pay before seeing a movie (and refunds are not calculated), box office receipts truly don't mean much. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Interesting, but I'm not sure I agree. |
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