Uh-Oh CGC, your turn in the barrel again18411
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James42 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It is obviously a different book. Relative grades are a harder call. But the worrying thing is that it shouldn't be possible for books from a separate submissions to be mixed up with each other. There should be basic processes that segregate individual submissions; apparently CGC either doesn't have them or doesn't follow them. | ||
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by James42 That'd be my bet. They're also supposed to follow procedures that require multiple inspections at various stages, and those procedures clearly aren't being followed given the number of returns for damaged/defective capsules and erroneous labels. It stands to reason that other rules/guidelines aren't being followed. |
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 Why just the women? I like bears.
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator I'm not too sure. Obviously, if something like this had happened, the owner would've been told. Deceit is not a word used when speaking of either of those companies. |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by James42 They obviously follow them or we'd hear about a lot more of this. When CBCS lost 360+ books, that didn't mean they don't have a process or don't follow it. Sometimes things just happen. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| All processes have a failure rate. It might be 0.0000000001% but it's still there Heck - I'm in the Healthcare industry where people's lives are on the line based on a series of processes that are established and followed to ensure no one gets hurt. But even in Healthcare there is an understanding (we call it "risk" ) that there may be failure that ends up hurting an individual; even no matter how rigid and strict the procedures and practices are adhered to. And I'm talking Healthcare!; not comics So of all the things I fault CGC and CBCS for; and my gosh there are dozens, something like this as long as it is isolated and dealt with fairly, is not one of those big concerns. |
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 I'll probably wake up constipated.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Exactly! You better make sure all "T's" are crossed and all "I's" are dotted or the FDA will come in and do an all-out audit. I've spent many years in medical sterilization, and no corporation wants the FDA or OSHA in their building. |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Sigur_Ros - Looking at that line on the original, based on grades I received for similar comics, my guess would be a 9.4 is what CBCS would grade. | ||
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 I have not set up at a con since 2029.
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PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/512889-is-this-the-same-book/?do=findComment&comment=12520751 CGC's response here is unacceptable. This turn of events is nothing more than sweeping the issue under the rug, which should concern all those who entrust CGC with their valuables, and not only the original poster of this thread who wold can only imagine has received a payout from CGC with no explanation as to what occurred This is a very poor reflection on CGC's business practices. CGC has an obligation to inform other clients' of theirs what happened to this switched out book. How are we to know that this was either a clerical error or the actions of a thief(s)tht may or may not still be employed at CCS and/or CGC? Lacking any public disclosure of any findings of any investigation, how are we, as paying customers of CGC, able to know if this will not happen again? That is a rhetorical question as we cannot know based on this post by CGCMike, barring any public notice of the outcome. Was the book switched out by a CCS, and/or a CGC employee and subbed under their account for resale by said CCS and/or CGC employee? The raw copy of Ultimate Fallout #4 subbed by the OP of this thread is likely to have netted a 9.8, even as is before pressing it looks like a 9.6/9.8 candidate. There are no discerning marks on the OP's copy, as would be the case with virtually every 9.8 slabbed UF 4....this is not a silver age book in 5.0 that would have several identifying defects. It's a modern book with a FMV of over $2K in CGC 9.8 and over $1000 less in CGC 9.6. IOW, this is a book that would be a relatively easy mark for dishonest actor(s) who are employed by CGC. No disclosure of what has been done to prevent this in the future, if anything has in fact been done, has been put forth by anyone at CGC. |
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| @ComicHoarder this as opposed to outright losing books, or just taking years to grade and never replying to emails with questions. They're both pretty shit right now. | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 The cgc has done all of this as well. The biggest difference then was they were the only game in town. Most of the time the response you got was, "So what? What are you going to do about it." |
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Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DrWatson when they take a year to grade my books and don't respond to multiple emails I'd be pissed about that too. Unfortunately, cbcs is the only company that is holding my books hostage currently. | ||
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| What demands are they making in exchange for releasing the books? | ||
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Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DrWatson I dunno, they seem to be the worst kidnappers ever since they won't respond to any attempts to contact them. 🤷♂️ | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 Touche, lol. |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I can promise you that CGC is no stranger to losing books because they just 'fessed up to losing one of mine. I was told several days ago that the claims department would get in touch with me and that has yet to happen. We'll see if they offer me some pissant $50 voucher for my $100 book... | ||
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| @Byrdibyrd oh I'm sure they've both done it here and there with the volume of books submitted. I don't judge them on a book missing here and there or even some grading inaccuracy or damage to books - I would expect that to happen on rare occasions especially with new graders on both sides trying to pump out work. I was more so referring to the whole 337 book ordeal with clan Mcdonald - I'm still curious what the actual story there was, I don't think anyone said exactly what happened, just that it was kinda shady and definitely stupid. |
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Why just the women? I like bears.
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
 Not only were we not told what happened (like he said he was going to do), but we weren't told *why* we were not told. |
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Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Gaard I'd have much more respect and understanding if a statement was made saying so and so messed up, checks were put in place to make sure it doesn't happen again, and we have done everything possible to make it right. Given Steve's posts on FB, cbcs gave express submissions at no charge to rush the replacement books through that CMC was able to get. Although to be honest it seems like a LOT of the "making things right" seemed to rest on CMC and almost none on cbcs. Was nice hearing counterpoint and various artists were willing to do whatever they could to get people the sigs/books they paid for though. Major props to them, especially because I'm sure even subconsciously people may relate it with lost submissions for a while even though it was totally the opposite. | ||
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
| There's no such thing as too much communication. Both companies, imo, are too damn secretive. | ||
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ticktocktyler private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard What do they secrete?  |
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PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 CBCS losing 337 books is news to me, first time I read about it was in this thread days ago. Do you have a link to that thread handy? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd What book was it, if you don;t mind me sking? And what did you put down on the FMV when you subbed it? I always just max out the FMV, for the tier it's subbed under. |
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Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @ComicHoarder https://www.facebook.com/groups/1614483302181956/permalink/2886069461689994/ Believe that should get ya to the original post Steve made about it. |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @ComicHoarder It was a Last Ronin Ashcan sent in to get signed by Kevin Eastman. I was pretty nice, so I went for $100. |
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| @Byrdibyrd He is right. You should always max out the tier. It doesn't cost any extra and in times like this it might be beneficial. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ComicHoarder Don’t agree. there was some color rub and white line down the back. OP said the white line couldn’t be pressed out. So not a 9.8, not sure it would meet 9.6. But I also think the book he got was over graded as well, and not the same book. |
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$100 Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd No recent sales for that book in any SS slabs and the 3 SS slabs avialable on ebay now are asking $250 to $200 for SS 9.4's. Recent 9.8's and 9.6 prices for blues are strong....based on what I see, blue 9.8's are solid $200 slabs, not too big of a drop for blue 9.6's either. Yep, you're getting hosed even at $100....can't imagine they'd offer you less than the declared value of $100 but still, that wouldnt surprise me at all tho....but one can be sure CGC monitors threads like these, I'd bet they give you the full $100 you put down. They don't need bad juju over a $100 slab, that was likely under insured to begin with, to boot. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fsrp=1&_from=R40&_nkw=Last+Ronin+Ashcan+cgc&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=07011&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=60&LH_Complete=1 |
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 You can't get good wood on the ball every time.
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HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler definitely not integrity |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte You're right. I don't always do that, and this was one of those times. |
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