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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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It shouldn't, as long as the case was never opened or damaged to the point where it could be opened. All the information is on the label and encased with the book. As long as neither one has been compromised, then re-holdering the book shouldn't change its status as a 'witnessed' signature.
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It shouldn't, as long as the case was never opened or damaged to the point where it could be opened. All the information is on the label and encased with the book. As long as neither one has been compromised, then re-holdering the book shouldn't change its status as a 'witnessed' signature.


Thanks! So if it were sent in for a regrade and reholder that would void the witnessed part and "demote" it to verified, I guess?
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If the book is sent in the slab and there's no obvious damage to the slab and/or the assigned grade appears correct then it would not be re-graded...only re-slabbed. If the client insists on the re-grade, I suppose it could be regraded but it would likely keep the same grade and the Witnessed signature would remain as Winessed. Either way...the witnessed designation is not impacted as long as the book is recieved in the slab (without tamper evidence).
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If the book is sent in the slab and there's no obvious damage to the slab and/or the assigned grade appears correct then it would not be re-graded...only re-slabbed. If the client insists on the re-grade, I suppose it could be regraded but it would likely keep the same grade and the Witnessed signature would remain as Winessed. Either way...the witnessed designation is not impacted as long as the book is received in the slab (without tamper evidence).


Right. I guess I meant if the owner requested a regrade then the book would start off as a book with unverified writing on the cover? CGC gets all sorts of witnessed sig books and disregards the sigs verified, witnessed or not when a press & regrade are paid for, right? Was wondering if CBCS does the same or they verify instead of green label writing on cover stuff.
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If the book is sent in the slab and there's no obvious damage to the slab and/or the assigned grade appears correct then it would not be re-graded...only re-slabbed. If the client insists on the re-grade, I suppose it could be regraded but it would likely keep the same grade and the Witnessed signature would remain as Winessed. Either way...the witnessed designation is not impacted as long as the book is received in the slab (without tamper evidence).


Right. I guess I meant if the owner requested a regrade then the book would start off as a book with unverified writing on the cover? CGC gets all sorts of witnessed sig books and disregards the sigs verified, witnessed or not when a press & regrade are paid for, right? Was wondering if CBCS does the same or they verify instead of green label writing on cover stuff.


I'm not entirely sure what you're asking but what I can say is this.....regardless of the reason for the return....as long as the book is received by CBCS in the slab without tamper evidence, then the Witnessed designation is retained....no change to Verified.

The crux is CBCS must receive the book in the slab without tamper evidence...if this happens...regardless of the reason for the return to CBCS, the book keeps its Witnessed signature.
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If the book is sent in the slab and there's no obvious damage to the slab and/or the assigned grade appears correct then it would not be re-graded...only re-slabbed. If the client insists on the re-grade, I suppose it could be regraded but it would likely keep the same grade and the Witnessed signature would remain as Winessed. Either way...the witnessed designation is not impacted as long as the book is received in the slab (without tamper evidence).


Right. I guess I meant if the owner requested a regrade then the book would start off as a book with unverified writing on the cover? CGC gets all sorts of witnessed sig books and disregards the sigs verified, witnessed or not when a press & regrade are paid for, right? Was wondering if CBCS does the same or they verify instead of green label writing on cover stuff.

Because CGC does NOT do signature verification, if you send them a book that was verified by CBCS as an authentic signature, they will ignore that because they recognise ONLY witnessed signatures, and it will receive a green label. CBCS does not have that issue. Any witnessed book - including a book witnessed by CGC, as I understand it - will still retain its 'witnessed' status so long as the case has not been tampered with or damaged to the point where the book and/or label could be removed and replaced.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@Byrdibyrd exactly! 🍻
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