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My opinion;
Very low on my rewatch list. Not a big fan of all the "Campy" stuff.. Way to much and very over the top.. it was like watching "space balls"..
And then they just had to insert their non story related woke ideology into it.. Truthfully I think we get the picture without having to show it.. Anyway it did have a few good parts but few is the key word here''

She-Hulk is starting to go the to much Campyness way also.. I will still watch it but am not a big fan of the over the top Campyness

In my opinion if this continues it will turn off a lot of people and destroy the Marvel Super Hero Movies..
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I agree. Always scared voicing my opinion but the woke stuff needs to stop. Awful writing in so many movies … where are they hiring these people? Elementary school? And terrible directors and people running the shots at Disney. I lost respect. I no longer want garbage movies!
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I think they fast played Gorr. I feel Gorr should have appeared in a previous movie to help show how devastating he really is. That would also give a little more time to play out the necro sword.
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Agree with all above. It wasn’t bad to watch, but much prefer the “epic” Marvel stuff, Iron Man 1, Avengers, etc. Re the wokeness, I understand everyone has an opinion but frankly a bit tired of the constant left wing ideology in my entertainment. I’d feel the same way if it were right wing ideology so don’t @ me. I like my movies entertaining not indoctrinational.
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My kids liked the screaming goats
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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Way to much and very over the top.. it was like watching "space balls"..
And then they just had to insert their non story related woke ideology into it.


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She-Hulk is starting to go the to much Campyness way also.


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In my opinion if this continues it will turn off a lot of people and destroy the Marvel Super Hero Movies..



If I agreed more, I'd be over 100%. Well said
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I liked Thor love and thunder. It had a emotional powerful feelings to it. There’s a few jokes it had a light hearted feel to it yet a deep emotional mortality to it. I believe if the watcher of this movie hasn’t lost people they love in life either threw death or bad break ups or just in general haven’t experienced the badder stuff in life. then they won’t get the full impact the movie brings to it. There’s a bunch to this movie than just thor fighting the god slayer it’s much more to it there’s many layers to this movie to understand lots of emotions in it. It might be hard for people to understand the entirety of the movie if they haven’t been through a few of these things in life.
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Didn't watch it!...dont even know if it's on Disney+...and likely won't seek it out.

Not much interest in the latest offerings from Marvel or Starwars...time better wasted on other things
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the woke stuff needs to stop. Awful writing in so many movies


I am dubious when people complain about "the woke stuff". The second point, the writing, has always been the actual problem. If you shoe-horn something into a script to meet some sort of agenda it stands out and makes for a forgettable scene. If it jars you out of the movie magic zone then the movie can be ruined. But as I said, this has always been a problem and it's not specific to "the woke stuff". So many movies in the 80s and 90s had awkward love interest sub-plots. The agenda then, I think, was "get some boobs on screen...people like boobs". In either instance of "the woke stuff" or "boobs on screen" it is often unnecessary and jarring. I think the main reason why we hear so many people complain about "the woke stuff" and not simply "bad writing" is because they are afraid of "the real life woke stuff" and how uncomfortable it makes them feel. Why didn't people complain as much about awkward "boobs on screen" scenes in past decades? Most likely, in my heterosexual male opinion, it is because people really do like boobs. Well...that and the pre-internet absence of the world wide soap box.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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Fact of the matter is however one defines the content.... be it real, unreal, exagerrated, not accurate, or accurate; marvel mcu is beginning to see a downturn. What ever the reason(s) is or aren't it's still happening.
That's a problem for them
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Yet it brought in $143 million domestically on the opening weekend and over $750 million globally so far. I haven't watched it yet, but it's hardly a flop financially and I doubt Marvel will be changing much. Quite honestly, I'm loving She-hulk and I like many of the so called "woke" movies, so I expect I will enjoy it.
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The whole “Zeus” part of the movie killed it for me. What accent was that?? He came off as a clown to me. Didn’t like it.
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Splotches is gettin old!
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Yea that Zeus was atrocious
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It was entertaining for me, which is the goal.
I don't go into these shows actively looking for issues either tho. if they jump out then they jump out, like Zeus' accent. It was absolutely atrocious but it didn't come close to ruining the movie for me. it was just a bad moment, just about every movie and show has them.
They can't all be Endgame and don't forget how many movies (and criticism of those movies) it took to set up that epic finale.
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I think I saw Matt Damon do a cameo?
The goats were the best part of that cheese fest....
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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Those goats gave me an excruciating migraine.
I swear it was a reminder of this (AND SOUNDED LIKE this) ... and I'm the dude in the middle of the car

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I think Thor put the final nail in the MCU coffin. The MCU is done. Shark jumped.

It was more a parody than a comedy and a poor one at that.

Massively underperformed expectations. Critical bomb.

I won’t jump into the “woke” debate other than to note some of my favorite comic-based shows include Doom Patrol and Umbrella Academy.

Bad writing is bad writing. Thor had bad writing, directing and acting.
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Didn't watch it!...dont even know if it's on Disney+...and likely won't seek it out.

Not much interest in the latest offerings from Marvel or Starwars...time better wasted on other things


We watched it on D+ and that’s the grade it deserves.

I cannot believe Christian Bale saw the final script before accepting the role. Just not possible. What a waste of a great actor.
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Yet it brought in $143 million domestically on the opening weekend and over $750 million globally so far. I haven't watched it yet, but it's hardly a flop financially and I doubt Marvel will be changing much. Quite honestly, I'm loving She-hulk and I like many of the so called "woke" movies, so I expect I will enjoy it.


I am certain Disney is disappointed with the financial results here. Total cost of about $500M up-front. Then remember we are deep in the MCU now and the stars are getting big residuals. It wasn’t a bust but it likely generated less than 25% of what The Batman made, despite The Batman being yet another reboot, with a 3 hr runtime, with no extended universe tie-in…
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@Cerebus3000 " I think the main reason why we hear so many people complain about "the woke stuff" and not simply "bad writing" is because they are afraid of "the real life woke stuff" and how uncomfortable it makes them feel. "

I could only speak for myself. I'm not afraid to discuss real woke issues; it's a topic I am comfortable with and respect the fact that we are all different. The issue I have is when a topic is pushed from every angle possible due to an agenda and less about the super hero escapism we all seek when watching these movies.

I also agree with you regarding the 1980's and 90's being over-sexualized using a certain body part.
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The Zues accent was terrible. Thankfully it lasted maybe 20mins of the movie.

The issues I had with Zues is the same one I will have with Black Adam. The poor accent or lack there of in the Black Adam trailers is why I'm not interested. Everyone seems excited for that movie, but the Rock's acting is very limited.

Also agree the goats were a huge troll move. About gave me a headache in the theaters
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I cannot believe Christian Bale saw the final script before accepting the role. Just not possible. What a waste of a great actor.

Christian Bale is very much in the Gary Oldham mindset when it comes to selecting roles. Both actors will take the occasional high-paycheck role in a popcorn movie so that they can turn around and take more challenging roles in smaller, lower-budget movies. Those smaller roles are where their talents truly shine.
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I cannot believe Christian Bale saw the final script before accepting the role. Just not possible. What a waste of a great actor.

Christian Bale is very much in the Gary Oldham mindset when it comes to selecting roles. Both actors will take the occasional high-paycheck role in a popcorn movie so that they can turn around and take more challenging roles in smaller, lower-budget movies. Those smaller roles are where their talents truly shine.


True but I can only think of one other weak movie he’s been in (Terminator #something). He’s usually very selective…
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True but I can only think of one other weak movie he’s been in (Terminator #something). He’s usually very selective…
I'm not saying weak. I'm saying high-paycheck roles in popcorn movies. The Batman movies, as good as they were and as good as he was in them, fit that description as does Thor: Love & Thunder.

Christian Bale's acting skills alone can be enough to make a weakly written movie decent to very good.
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I think some of the jokes fell flat, and some were poorly timed. Assuming Ragnarok is the natural comparison I would watch that over Love and Thunder every time.

I can't say I remember any woke stuff beyond the presence of non-hetero people/aliens. I don't personally find the existence of such people/aliens to be that big a deal.
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I agree. Always scared voicing my opinion but the woke stuff needs to stop. Awful writing in so many movies … where are they hiring these people? Elementary school? And terrible directors and people running the shots at Disney. I lost respect. I no longer want garbage movies!


Never be afraid to voice your opinion. You may not think it counts, but it does.
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I am certain Disney is disappointed with the financial results here. Total cost of about $500M up-front


Ummmm ... everything I find (a simple Google search with numerous results) all say it cost $250 million. Where did you get $500 million up-front?

Now, having watched it, I don't get the hate. I loved it!!! It has it's cheesy moments, but they were from Korg's version of the story. I think people forget (or didn't figure out) that throughout this whole movie, large parts of it is Korg telling a tale. Of course he is going to ham it up and embellish it!!! Anyways, I laughed, cried and laughed some more!!!!

Everyone that hated the movie, it obviously isn't for you, but it's not going to destroy Disney. I get there are moments that the storyline could have used some fleshing out. I wouldn't call it weak writing though. I have a feeling that some of the gaps ended up on the cutting room floor. This is actually a movie that I'd like to see a Director's Cut of.
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I liked it. The incredible CGI is made for comic book movies. It’s a comic book, so cheesy is a lane. It’s Disney friendly. It has the usual smart Alec quips one expects now. It is a version of what sells. And it sells very well.
That is the real point, isn’t it? Only sales matter.
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I am certain Disney is disappointed with the financial results here. Total cost of about $500M up-front


Ummmm ... everything I find (a simple Google search with numerous results) all say it cost $250 million. Where did you get $500 million up-front?

Now, having watched it, I don't get the hate. I loved it!!! It has it's cheesy moments, but they were from Korg's version of the story. I think people forget (or didn't figure out) that throughout this whole movie, large parts of it is Korg telling a tale. Of course he is going to ham it up and embellish it!!! Anyways, I laughed, cried and laughed some more!!!!

Everyone that hated the movie, it obviously isn't for you, but it's not going to destroy Disney. I get there are moments that the storyline could have used some fleshing out. I wouldn't call it weak writing though. I have a feeling that some of the gaps ended up on the cutting room floor. This is actually a movie that I'd like to see a Director's Cut of.


Simple google search won’t answer how much it cost.

Budget is direct immediate spend and excludes distribution/theater/marketing costs, which are very substantial.

My guess is the studio was looking for $800M+ to roughly breakeven and were expecting $900M+.
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I am certain Disney is disappointed with the financial results here. Total cost of about $500M up-front


Ummmm ... everything I find (a simple Google search with numerous results) all say it cost $250 million. Where did you get $500 million up-front?

Now, having watched it, I don't get the hate. I loved it!!! It has it's cheesy moments, but they were from Korg's version of the story. I think people forget (or didn't figure out) that throughout this whole movie, large parts of it is Korg telling a tale. Of course he is going to ham it up and embellish it!!! Anyways, I laughed, cried and laughed some more!!!!

Everyone that hated the movie, it obviously isn't for you, but it's not going to destroy Disney. I get there are moments that the storyline could have used some fleshing out. I wouldn't call it weak writing though. I have a feeling that some of the gaps ended up on the cutting room floor. This is actually a movie that I'd like to see a Director's Cut of.


Simple google search won’t answer how much it cost.

Budget is direct immediate spend and excludes distribution/theater/marketing costs, which are very substantial.

My guess is the studio was looking for $800M+ to roughly breakeven and were expecting $900M+.


Ok. So it's your guess. That's what I thought. Nothing wrong with that. But your claim of "$500 million up-front" is not based on any verifiable information. That's not the way you presented it.
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