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Collector mini_tb private msg quote post Address this user
Hello all,

I'm new here. I collected comics from 1992-1997 and am the proud owner of a large collection of mostly worthless comics. Or at least I thought they were all worthless. While researching easy ways to dump my collection in the last couple weeks, I learned about Batman Adventures #12 and have what appears to be a really nice copy.

I pulled it out of storage and snapped three quick pictures (outside on the sidewalk) of the cover and shared them with a friend. Took me awhile to figure it out, but the weird discoloration on the one image is the reflection of the clouds on the bag.

Anyhoo, I've never done anything grading-wise with comics, so I am completely new to this. My friend says the lower staple being misplaced will likely drop it to a 9.4. What do people think here? Just curious.

Thank you for your time!


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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
That's news to me. I thought it didn't have an effect on the grade unless the staple is rusted, bent, or there are minor tears on the cover from staple pull.

Looks like a great copy. I hope you get it pressed and cleaned by a reputable presser and get a higher grade than expected.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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That's news to me. I thought it didn't have an effect on the grade unless the staple is rusted, bent, or there are minor tears on the cover from staple pull.

Looks like a great copy. I hope you get it pressed and cleaned by a reputable presser and get a higher grade than expected.


I'm with @flanders - pretty sure that will have no effect - great copy!!!
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
@mini_tb
That is a sweet copy, and a newsstand edition as well! The staple shouldn't be a problem just because it's a little mis-aligned. That would just prevent the book from getting a crazy-high grade like 9.9 or 10 (correct me if I'm wrong, folks). I would definitely send that in for a press-and-grade.

Welcome to the forum, by the way!!
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Collector mini_tb private msg quote post Address this user
Looks like I need to get a crash course on pressing and cleaning! Would people recommend starting with some "lesser" issues before committing this one?

I'll have to get a look at the back cover and pages. The top left corner appeared to be the only one with any flaw, and that one looks very minor.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Welcome to the forum!

Manufacturing errors do not impact grade so misaligned staples are fine. That looks like a great copy. Assuming the interior and back resemble the cover in condition, you have a mid to higher 9 grade...9.4/9.6 perhaps...hesitant to say higher than 9.6 from a 1 sided picture.

I'd get it pressed and graded for sure. Awesome book!
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Collector Travis private msg quote post Address this user
Yup looks like a good one to me the kids go crazy of the Jokers gf these days slab that baby up start slab collecting but it can be addictive
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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it can be addictive

Yes, it can! Welcome to the club.
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Collector mini_tb private msg quote post Address this user
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Yup looks like a good one to me the kids go crazy of the Jokers gf these days slab that baby up start slab collecting but it can be addictive


I'm not looking to get back into collecting. I'm going in the opposite direction - looking to unload pretty much my entire collection - including the Batman comic. I just happened to read a few articles online about sought after 90s issues recently and stumbled across this issue.
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Collector Noblebeast315 private msg quote post Address this user
@mini_tb PM sent. If you are selling I might as well make an ask. 😁

Not for the Batman book though… to rich for my blood. Like folks said though it is a very nice copy and your best bet is to get it graded before selling. The money you will make off that book will make you feel just dandy for whatever else you can make of the others.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
What are you asking for it?
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
The staple placement won’t affect the grade as long it is from manufacturing. You have a very nice copy. From what I can see you a nice 9.6/9.8 candidate. It is also a newsstand and can command a premium over the “direct edition”. 9.8 graded copies have sold above $1k. A graded newsstand 9.8 could easily surpass those sales. Personally (if I could afford it) I’d press and grade that one. Even a 9.4 or 9.6 (any grade really) would be well worth it.

You’d be surprised how many those worthless 90s book are not so worthless.

If you need a quick way out on your collection; feel free to post here and you could also contact Steve Borock at My Comic Shop (Lone Star Comics) to see if they’d interested in acquiring your collection. Of course you would not get top dollar from MCS, but you’d be rid of them without having to deal with valuing and listing on your own. You could also consign more valuable books with MCS and others who will take care of everything for you minus consignment fees.
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Collector mini_tb private msg quote post Address this user
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What are you asking for it?


Can't say for sure at this point. A lot more than a few weeks ago! I'd have given it away then!
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@mini_tb

When / if you decide to sell. Post up your request. Inquiring minds are....curious.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
it looks like pretty good condition. if you do sell...there will be plenty of potental buyers here
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
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What are you asking for it?


Can't say for sure at this point. A lot more than a few weeks ago! I'd have given it away then!

You are in a state of R.E.M. It's still a few weeks ago!

I'll PM you my address.
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Collector ticktocktyler private msg quote post Address this user
Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
when it will cost more to have graded?
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
when it will cost more to have graded?

Exactly. Grade it now. Keep it if you want to keep it. Being graded will make it easier to sell for top dollar when you want to liquidate.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
with the HBOmax show, both suicide squad movies and Birds of Prey...and her being in Joker 2..can she be any higher?
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Collector 50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user
You have a very nice copy. If your collection is from the 90s then you may have some more treasures hidden in it and if your other books are in as nice of condition you may have some stuff worth grading.
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Collector 50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user
You're probably going to get a bunch of low-ball offers so I'd suggest you do a little research on your books before someone tries to rip you off.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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You're probably going to get a bunch of low-ball offers so I'd suggest you do a little research on your books before someone tries to rip you off.


Have more faith in the forum. Also, no one is going to make a reasonable offer without seeing more photos out of the bag, including multiple photos of the back cover. I'd suggest taking them inside instead of on a sidewalk outdoors.
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
id buy it but dont think id have enough to make a non insulting offer
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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id buy it but dont think id have enough to make a non insulting offer

Same page here. Exact same page.
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Collector ticktocktyler private msg quote post Address this user
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Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
when it will cost more to have graded?


Who cares? The value will far outstrip the grading price. Or NEVER have it graded. it's a#12. By the look of it around a 9.4 or 9.6.
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by ticktocktyler
Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
when it will cost more to have graded?


Who cares? The value will far outstrip the grading price. Or NEVER have it graded. it's a#12. By the look of it around a 9.4 or 9.6.

9.4 max is my guess. Top spine.
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Collector ticktocktyler private msg quote post Address this user
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Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
when it will cost more to have graded?

Exactly. Grade it now. Keep it if you want to keep it. Being graded will make it easier to sell for top dollar when you want to liquidate.


Sure. Like it will be difficult to sell ungraded. I can almost feel some forum members here jumping out of their skin at the possibility of buying the book. LOL!
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
No mention of difficulty selling it raw....but it certainly will be easier to sell it slabbed and for more money than raw.....if that book keeps going up in value as you say, then Yes, it will be more expensive to grade later. The smart move is to grade it now and sell it when he feels like it.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by DrWatson
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Originally Posted by ticktocktyler
Keep the book. Unless they completely botch Harley Quinn, that book will only become more coveted and valuable. I personally wouldn't send it to be graded at this point. Just put it somewhere cool, dark and dry and grade it at some point in the future.
when it will cost more to have graded?

Exactly. Grade it now. Keep it if you want to keep it. Being graded will make it easier to sell for top dollar when you want to liquidate.


Sure. Like it will be difficult to sell ungraded. I can almost feel some forum members here jumping out of their skin at the possibility of buying the book. LOL!
😴
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