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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Now that her vagina's green, she doesn't need a man.
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It's "entertainment". And in that respect, it is a win.


Entertainment is based on perspective, though. We could ask Caligula and Nero about what sort of entertainment they endorsed and/or participated in. What was entertaining to the lions and the good citizens of Rome may have been defined differently by the Christians

Good times... good times ...
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Hey I guess I'm not up on my Bruce Banner history ...

But what does @Siggy mean by

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"Her cousin and aunt were abused by her uncle, .... " and Bruce "Witnessing his mother's abuse and murder " .. ?


I know that Ross's daughter dies at some point so that's bad, but what's this about him being experimented on and whatnot by his father ... and the other stuff? His Father?

Mind you I haven't ready any HULK since oh, 1987 or so.

thanks in advance if you post links or something ...
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I took the whole Steve Rogers thing as a play off of the "America's ass" stuff in Endgame. Which, I found odd and wedged in for cheap laughs during a portion of the movie that it really made no sense. Was she virgin shaming? Or was she lamenting that someone that attractive may have never "got some"? Not the first time I've heard someone do that. I didn't even think of it as shaming. I've also literally heard fans discussing this same topic in a "like, is his dork made of orange rock too" type of scenario. So...they folded it into a TV show for laughs. Didn't really land with me, but I'm not everyone.


I took it as more of a tabloid/reality-type thing. Look at that famous person, I wonder about their life! Except Jen knows someone who might actually know the story, so she comes up with this "theory" for Bruce as a fishing expedition. I thought it was more weird than funny until the credits scene and then I thought it paid off. Still a little weird.
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Wow...I wonder if you all jump onto internet forums to complain about a depiction of man as an overbearing alpha male with the same zeal you jump onto a woman being portrayed as arrogant and aggressive.

If the MCU starts doing that with their characters who aren't normally like that, I might.

I took the whole Steve Rogers thing as a play off of the "America's ass" stuff in Endgame. Which, I found odd and wedged in for cheap laughs during a portion of the movie that it really made no sense. Was she virgin shaming? Or was she lamenting that someone that attractive may have never "got some"? Not the first time I've heard someone do that. I didn't even think of it as shaming. I've also literally heard fans discussing this same topic in a "like, is his dork made of orange rock too" type of scenario. So...they folded it into a TV show for laughs. Didn't really land with me, but I'm not everyone.
I agree, there was no sense to it. It made her seem extremely shallow, IMO.


Bruce took her to an island against her will and refused to let her leave because he was judging her by his experience.
Seems wiser than waiting to see if she would go berserk.

Hers was different...she kept trying to tell him "yo...i'm different".

And he forcibly kept her captive until she fought her way free. I can literally see both sides of that interaction. I'm curious about those who can't.
Assuming she knows of Bruce's history, you'd think she would be just a little concerned, but again, she just KNOWS she's perfected being a Hulk overnight.

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Originally Posted by Siggy
She's in complete control of her emotions, so if Bruce hadn't shown up, she likely would have killed or crippled someone(s) for coming on to her. But let's ignore that.

Her cousin and aunt were abused by her uncle, but she made sure to put that in perspective by describing the horrors of being whistled at, and how speaking out against incompetent, know-it-all men

(normally subjective, but her womb assures us she's always correct)

will get her labeled as emotional

(like when she was about to kill or cripple the guy(s) for coming on to her)

or could even get her "murdered". At first, I thought that sounded extreme, but since speaking out against toxic masculinity is all she does, maybe she has received death-threats. Either way, what has Bruce gone through that could possibly top catcalling? Witnessing his mother's abuse and murder and later living with the constant fear of destroying entire cities with his uncontrollable rage? Pfft- What a wuss and loser.

We're supposed to be impressed with her automatically perfect amazingness, yet they write her in a "typical woman-driver" scenario. At least she was able to mock Rogers for putting the world's and then the universe's safety ahead of getting laid before she crashed. In fact, was there a male in this episode who was not put in his place? Was there a scene where Bruce wasn't put in his place?

I don't think a "message" has ever been clearer in anything the MCU has done. They were 100% correct that this show isn't made for me. Watching any more would be like living the "Thank you sir- May I have another?" scene from Animal House, only standing and being paddled from the front, because that's where the true evil lies.


I have never seen someone more offended by the depiction of a woman...and that's saying something on these forums. Or by the depiction of men.
You still haven't. I'm not offended. I'm irritated that these activists take advantage of the built in fan base in order to scream at the world rather than using their... "talent"... to write something original, because they KNOW very few will watch it, and are too insecure to admit it.

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We're supposed to be impressed with her automatically perfect amazingness, yet they write her in a "typical woman-driver" scenario.



Totally, spaceships dropping from the sky directly in front of a car is totally normal and if it weren't for a woman driving; that would have ended totally differently (read dripping with sarcasm I hope I used enough totallys).
I think if she had seen it descending in front of them instead of turning to see it had already descended into their path, she might have slowed down rather than slam the brakes and turn the wheel hard to the right.

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She's in complete control of her emotions, so if Bruce hadn't shown up, she likely would have killed or crippled someone(s) for coming on to her. But let's ignore that.

How do we know this? seems like a pretty big assumption...particularly when we take into account your comment where you get angry about people assuming things about personal threats/danger.
I will go out on a limb and think she didn't lunge at them in order to yell and make mean faces. This is what makes her claim of having control silly, because if there is no difference between her personality and She Hulk's, then why didn't she lunge at them before she changed?
Hulk has been depicted regularly in the movies striking "normal" humans who don't just drop dead.
Trust me. Anytime I see a super being send someone flying across the room and they're okay, I think it's effing ridiculous.
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or could even get her "murdered". At first, I thought that sounded extreme, but since speaking out against toxic masculinity is all she does, maybe she has received death-threats. Either way, what has Bruce gone through that could possibly top catcalling? Witnessing his mother's abuse and murder and later living with the constant fear of destroying entire cities with his uncontrollable rage? Pfft- What a wuss and loser.



As three strange men outside a remote bar start to follow her into the parking lot..that...that didn't create a sense that there was a danger to the tiny woman? Have you ever seen a movie? This is a pretty well established trope. THey weren't just cat calling her. They were physically approaching her, she had nowhere to go. Also, have you every talked to, you know, a woman? That this kind of thing has happened to? I have, many. Based on many discussion with actual women, this is a clearly threatening scenario where many would be inclined to fear for their physical safety.
You think they were going to rape her, I think she was going to cripple them. It's a wash.

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I don't think a "message" has ever been clearer in anything the MCU has done. They were 100% correct that this show isn't made for me. Watching any more would be like living the "Thank you sir- May I have another?" scene from Animal House, only standing and being paddled from the front, because that's where the true evil lies.


Could have lead and finished with this. Or even shortened to "man not lead...man made fun of...MAN MADDDD! SMAAAASH.

Why didn't you?
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Entertainment it is for sure!
Excuse me while I depart to go pull my teeth out one by one.
Anyone want to see that entertainment?


Now that's a thought... Or I can turn on the news and take a nap....
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Hey I guess I'm not up on my Bruce Banner history ...

But what does @Siggy mean by

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Originally Posted by Siggy
"Her cousin and aunt were abused by her uncle, .... " and Bruce "Witnessing his mother's abuse and murder " .. ?


I know that Ross's daughter dies at some point so that's bad, but what's this about him being experimented on and whatnot by his father ... and the other stuff? His Father?

Mind you I haven't ready any HULK since oh, 1987 or so.

thanks in advance if you post links or something ...


None of that happens in the MCU so it isn't especially relevant. I'm not a big Hulk reader but they covered Bruce's father's abuses in the 2003 Hulk movie.
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Anyone catch the bad editing? He wakes her with a horn and makes note that she reverts to normal when she sleeps. The scene prior to that shows she was still Jen. Oops.
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Hey I guess I'm not up on my Bruce Banner history ...

But what does @Siggy mean by

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Originally Posted by Siggy
"Her cousin and aunt were abused by her uncle, .... " and Bruce "Witnessing his mother's abuse and murder " .. ?


I know that Ross's daughter dies at some point so that's bad, but what's this about him being experimented on and whatnot by his father ... and the other stuff? His Father?

Mind you I haven't ready any HULK since oh, 1987 or so.

thanks in advance if you post links or something ...


His father is far more abusive in the comics. My comment was based on both the books and the 1st Hulk film where he sees his father kill his mother.
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Let's not forget this fight scene of which I have to say it is ground-breaking cinematography.
Seeing Titania literally fly across the courtroom was just done... gosh... I don't know the words... magnificently? Incredibly? I literally stood up cheering and couldn't believe how incredible the special effects were
I think I saw Matilda the Hun and Tina Ferrari hiding in the corner

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Titillating.
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"Why are you talking to me like I'm a stray horse?"

Maybe because 2 seconds ago she was acting like a Hulk gone berserk. But I guess she'd also have roared and attempted to tear the door off its hinges if she were just Jen, because there's "no one else at the wheel."

And she never acted smug in the episode. Nope, not once. Only Bruce showed such a character weakness.

Awful writing.
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https://www.cbr.com/she-hulk-john-byrne-new-superhero-name-graphic-novel/


Apparently they were considering renaming her to bombshell....
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Was anybody here an original member of this club? I'm asking for a friend.




You sound just like D+ and the MCU gaslighting fans. I think the writing sucks so I must hate women.
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You sound just like D and the MCU gaslighting fans. I think the writing sucks so I must hate women.


No, I think you must hate women because you commented this ...

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Originally Posted by Siggy
(normally subjective, but her womb assures us she's always correct)


And because you equate being raped to being crippled.

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You think they were going to rape her, I think she was going to cripple them. It's a wash.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
People that have been on the receiving end of unwanted physical contact are traumatized for life. I'm glad someone called it out.....
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And because you equate being raped to being crippled.


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People that have been on the receiving end of unwanted physical contact are traumatized for life. I'm glad someone called it out....


Also can apply to folks who have been crippled by violence. But I don't think it's necessary to compare the two. The clearer distinction is between aggressor and responder/defender. A sexual assault victim is never the aggressor, while the person who ends up crippled may well have been. As would have been the case in this situation.
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Originally Posted by Siggy
You sound just like D and the MCU gaslighting fans. I think the writing sucks so I must hate women.


No, I think you must hate women because you commented this ...


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Originally Posted by Siggy
(normally subjective, but her womb assures us she's always correct)


This is (missed) sarcasm for, "because she's a woman, she's always correct," which is clearly the flavor of the show.

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And because you equate being raped to being crippled.

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Originally Posted by Siggy
You think they were going to rape her, I think she was going to cripple them. It's a wash.


Holy crow! THAT'S what you took away from that??

I wasn't equating anything to anything. I was told that no one knows she was going to kill or cripple them, so I pointed out that no one knows they were going to rape her. We both made the same point. It's a wash. Granted I didn't repeat "kill or" in the post that was quoted, but my original comment included "kill", which is pretty serious too.

FFS
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I would argue that unwanted contact is a more intimate assault. Thereby causing more that just a physical discomfort.

Some psychological scars never heal. And to be honest I would take a permanent broken leg than to live with the psychogical trauma ive lived with. The only time I had any lapse in the pain was when I did the "tuna" or what's better known as electroshock therapy. Essentially your brain gets so toasted you don't remember the pain or trauma until the effects wear off.

So yeah, people that don't have trauma are lucky they can make uneducated comments. I'm glad they don't have to experience pain. But maybe if they did for 15 minutes they would be more sympathetic to others.
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I tried watching this last week after binge watching the last three seasons of Better Call Saul and must have been lawyered out at the time. I'm glad I gave it another try today and enjoyed the humor. I don't understand all the negative reviews, I didn't notice any anti-male aura of the She-Hulk character or show and found it enjoyable. The interactions seemed more of a sibling, or in this case, cousin rivalry, than anything.
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She hulk, while having its subtle messaging there, was nowhere near enough moving needle for outraged response from this middle aged white male. Was just soft digs and a bit fun I quite enjoyed.

I liked the career minded female perspective of being turned into a hulk.. As someone who loves hulk but never read she hulk I found she hulk far more interesting to watch than any of the 'smart hulk' the MCU has given us
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Was anybody here an original member of this club? I'm asking for a friend.





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Wow...I wonder if you all jump onto internet forums to complain about a depiction of man as an overbearing alpha male...

Yeah, we do.
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She hulk, while having its subtle messaging...

You consider this "subtle"? Lol.
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She-Hulk makes purple look so good. I am green with envy!
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Hey I guess I'm not up on my Bruce Banner history ...

But what does @Siggy mean by

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Originally Posted by Siggy
"Her cousin and aunt were abused by her uncle, .... " and Bruce "Witnessing his mother's abuse and murder " .. ?


I know that Ross's daughter dies at some point so that's bad, but what's this about him being experimented on and whatnot by his father ... and the other stuff? His Father?

Mind you I haven't ready any HULK since oh, 1987 or so.

thanks in advance if you post links or something ...


His father is far more abusive in the comics. My comment was based on both the books and the 1st Hulk film where he sees his father kill his mother.


Yeah man, thanks. I truly did not remember any of that.

My Bruce Banner memories remembers him stealing a jeep to rush out into the desert to fix something askew with his experiment he was leading for the army before his bomb test and getting caught in the blast ... and he was grey with a flat head ... Also remember some teenager out there ... maybe he went out there to save that kid? Pushed him into a gully before the blast got him ... something like that. Damn this old brain.
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Enjoyed episode 2.. But was so short
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Enjoyed episode 2.. But was so short


Way too short.
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