CGC puts blue label on "new" modified excl18147
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Quote:Originally Posted by Murmonster Very limited to no response at all, rarely any time wasted. It may be more to do with what I'm selling. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd I don’t know but they may have pulled it to stop all the people complaining to them about it. Im sure influencers will have them. Lol |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith Yeah I agree. we're probably going to see roughly 2 years of stores and online retailers trying to outdo each other with the next hot acetate, and whatever comes after acetate. This is going to create a flood of "new" old variants that they are sitting on. CGC just gave them a new way to recycle old trash for $$$. Not only that, they are creating a new category within it as well, because it's only a matter of time before a legit artist and store want to make something and CGC denies them, then they get to yell about discrimination, and the first "official/not official" aftermarket variant will be making the rounds and getting hyped. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash https://www.carscoops.com/2022/07/general-motors-penalizes-corvette-hummer-and-escalade-v-flippers-by-cancelling-the-vehicles-warranty/ They might not let flippers buy more cars, as well. Not sure how they plan to implement that, but it's out there as a possibility. More likely they would punish dealers who sell multiple flip cars by restrictions on allocations, but who knows. |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd Seen reports that they just sold them to vendors. No idea if true. The books were there though, according to at least one photo. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Yep yep yep - which is precisely what I meant when I wrote this. The way of scum when they get caught. Sneaky smart  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SGT_Comics And there you have it.. Someone on YouTube admitting they've successfully slid in old, unwitnessed signatures to get yellow labels with new. Was there ever any doubt this was the way things worked? Red label only for me. ( just wish cbcs would change the colour ) Skip to 3:24 Edit : that said its level vid worth watching through |
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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| WOW, but that is special. I'm still not seeing how the speaker is getting accurate information for the sneaky signature onto the yellow label, or does it just get the same date as the witnessed signature it's riding with? I need to see one of these yellow labels that he snuck an unwitnessed signature in on. Do I think CGC is that gullible? It wouldn't surprise me. I just need to see more before I know for sure what I think about this. Quote: Originally Posted by Wraith Your wish is granted! All signature labels are yellow for CBCS books, but witnessed signature are listed as 'witnessed' along with the date, and verified signatures as 'verified' with no date.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith Change it to something other than yellow? CBCS hasn't had red labels for over two years now |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinitewhoops I didn't realise! I like  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrdis not them being gullible. I believe they accepting additional book and including it in the batch for SS slabs in a signing |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith I so liked the red verified signature and/or art label. *chants* Bring back the Red! Bring back the Red! For one..it sets CBCS apart from ALL other companies...IMO - it should be thrir prize venture/franchise. I'm ALL in. *drops mic*  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith I'd love to say they had more integrity than that, but... yeah. All I need to do is consider what's been going on the past few days. |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith Me, too! I think they look great, and it's also much better for getting the point across that witnessed and verified by a professional handwriting expert should be considered of equal value and veracity. |
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| So, judging by CGC’s new “standards”, if I get one of those blank cover comics with the original cover underneath and have that artist do a sketch on the blank, it’s no longer a sketch on a cover but an extremely limited 1/1 variant cover! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite could I take a sketch I have by the cover artist and 'attach' it to a book and get my 9.8? I have some ok sketches..... |
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| @KatKomics Looking at the guidelines you’re sitting on a potential pile of unique variants | ||
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| Marvel's (Disney) reaction to this issue is the most interesting part that remains to be seen. When they commission an artist to do a cover, they approve that cover. To have the artist go off and do another unapproved cover in the after-market strikes me as something they will not be able to condone. It's just too risky for the brand. It's not the same as a single print sketch cover. | ||
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| My question is why hasn't marvel put its 2 cents in yet? The only thing that I've heard mentioned that may be a factor is that clayton crain is a very popular artist and a huge money maker. If that's the case they might be a bit more lenient than if it was some other shmoo who did this. | ||
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| @Bronte My best guess would be that they are in private conversations with Clayton Crain before making any kind of public announcement. | ||
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| That would be my guess too. He pulled out of an event and has remained silent. My assumption would be to condemn him in private. But since he is so intertwined with Black Flag, it's going to be hard to condemn black flag without dragging him in. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I'm not convinced Marvel can say or do anything about this. All Marvel can do is publically state that this book is not endorsed by Marvel. They had no involvement in the manipulation of this book after its initial release. |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC As soon as it was implied that this fiasco had the Marvel stamp of approval and they profited from that claim, then Marvel has a right to step in. Had they just said it was a homebrew kinda thing and not sought assistance from CGC to make the books look like an official release, then there would be no problem. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd I missed where they (Black Flag) implied that...certainly if there is an implication that Marvel sanctioned this release then absolutely Marvel can intervene. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Aftermarket alterations would automatically get a green label but that was not the case here. The blue label from CGC states it's the 'Black Flag Edition,' implying that it was an official release. |
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 It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door.
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| Anyone see this |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Why should they? I don’t see how it effects their brand in a positive way, a negative way, or in any way. They weren’t involved in the production of the acetate, the art on it, nor did they staple it to the book. The issues surrounding the altered book and grading it have nothing to do with them. They happened after they delivered the product to the buyer. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd If that's the implication then that's on CGC and not Black Flag. This alone doesn't mean Marvel shouldn't make a public statement but perhaps Marvel privately reached out to CGC for the label notation change already. In my opinion, 100% of this fiasco falls at the feet of CGC. They were the gatekeepers here. Even if Black Flag told CGC this is a Marvel sanctioned release, CGC has a responsibility of due diligence and confirm Black Flag's claim. This book should have been qualified green label or unviersal label with a grade hit and label notes period. I don't fault Black Flag at all really....they've acted as expected...even if shady...still as expected. CGC on the other hand are professionals paid to sniff this crap out and either failed to do so or are knowingly complicit. Either way, not a good look for them. |
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