CGC puts blue label on "new" modified excl18147
 You can't get good wood on the ball every time.
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HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So CGC took a C2E2 exclusive from Black Flag comics and had some graded ones available at C2E2. The problem is, Black Flag bought his own acetate and did this himself, and currently has a video out admitting to this and addressing the line cutting (a big issue blowing up currently), and attached these new acetate covers to the Ultimate Fallout 4 reprints that recently came out himself. Not a manufacturer, Black Flag. and CGC gave them blue labels. with 4 staples in them. and now 9.9 and 9.8s are on ebay with blue labels. this should kill their credibility, but bad idea should have as well.   |
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Cgc is a joke. | ||
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ZosoRocks private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Uhm...why??? smh So sad our hobby has turned to this bologna. |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| WTF...? What clown thought this was a good idea!? | ||
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics I can't find the video. Is this a Black Flag variant or are you saying they stapled an acetate cover to a copy of the facsimile? |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 50AE_DE They stapled an acetate cover to the original 2021 facsimile.  Word going around is Marvel did not approve this. Also, a lot of drama over limiting the quantities to the collectors in line but the whatnot sellers were able to walk right up and pick up stacks of 75, 125, etc. Then walk over to the whatnot booth and start auctioning them off. According to some accounts I've read. Black Flag basically said "oh well" in a statement they made after. That's fine, he just wanted the money. Nothing wrong with that. But it angered many who didn't get one. I'm guessing they thought this was some official Marvel variant. And not the crap $5 facsimile it turned out to be. |
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| They slabbed it as a Marvel product. To me that seems legally suspect if it wasn't even authorized by Marvel. Could be an issue for both companies? I can't imagine CGC can be making enough money from it to risk getting involved in this way. | ||
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dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The whole thing is a dishonest fiasco. The acetate cover sucks, too. Just not done very well. | ||
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HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia  I heard rumor of a cease and desist letter but I don't know what good that would do if its sold out already. |
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| CGC is attempting to tarnish the reputation of clowns and jokes now? | ||
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HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| the video is gone but this was the link. it was around 28 minutes and was a lot of the guy from black flag saying how he presold some to influencers and nobody cut the line, and how he bought all the materials himself and had it done himself and had so much money invested in them, blah blah. I skimmed about 10 mins of the 28 mins. https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=595224405597756 |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Shouldn't that get a green label or purple label. They have altered the original book, diqualifying it from Blue label eligibility???? |
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics That's shady as hell. So he admitted he attached the acetate cover himself? |
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 Keep your $6.87 bro... not even saving tax with that.
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Cli4dR3D0g private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Reminds me of the van Gogh exhibit I just saw. | ||
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Where's his Bat-package?
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics Marvel has ZERO sense of humour about this kind of rubbish and they're right. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they threaten legal action. |
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics Even if they sent out a cease and desist letter, what grounds do they have when someone adds a cover to a comic that they own? |
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Damn. I almost bought a copy from comic mint earlier today.... | ||
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HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Is there an invisible variant? | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 50AE_DE Correct. He apparently said he intentionally avoided anything copyrighted. He owned the books. He stapled something to them, and he sold them. No issues with that, but I wonder how many of those Whatnot sellers auctioning them off said that's all it was.  |
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dennisqdw private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Ok, for those of us old folks that aren't really keeping up with new "comics" technology, would anyone mind taking a minute and telling me what Black Flag is, and what an acetate is? thanx. |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Black Flag is a comic book reseller that apparently works closely with Clayton crain. Acetate I assume is the clear plastic stuff teachers used back when over head proje tors were in use. | ||
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It appears Black Flag is a comic shop that will occasionally get comic shop variants. | ||
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dennisqdw private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So it's just a comic book with a piece of clear plastic stapled around its cover? Why would anyone want that? | ||
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Keep your $6.87 bro... not even saving tax with that.
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Cli4dR3D0g private msg quote post Address this user | |
| From my 10,000 foot limited simplistic perspective, a comic was altered but got a very high-grade CGC blue label? | ||
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Just throwing this out there as I'm trying to think why CGC would authenticate this book with a blue label. Artists can sign and sketch on a comic cover, sign up for a "creator" account or whatever it's called, and send it to CGC/CBCS for a yellow label. Since Black Flag comes out with their own shop variant, if Black Flag were to put their own "signature" on a book and sent it directly to CBCS/CGC would it get the same treatment that a "creator" would get since it came directly from them and not a customer? |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BronteMostly. Acetate is used as a protective cover, for overlaying graphics for special effect (like blood spatter), in place of paper for its ultra shininess, or for graphics that cannot work on paper (like the Chromium Valiant covers). Acetate is also ph neutral so it works well for our hobby in the long term. |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @dennisqdw When I was shopping at comic mint. I thought it was a limited release variant. I'm glad I couldn't find it now. Given popularity of miles morales I thought it would be a good speculation book. Especially since I have never heard of it before. There are a lot of new books out the past few years that are completely new to me. A metal cover for example. Is it really a metal cover or is it a foil? I have no clue. I assumed comic mint would not deal with sketchy stuff so I assumed it was legit. Glad I'm old and too slow to figure out the web site now though.... |
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So is this the next one? It doesn't seem like anything is on ebay now. CGC Cert # 4100794001 Title Ghost Rider Issue 1 Issue Date 4/22 Issue Year 2022 Publisher Marvel Comics Variant ""Zymotica Vs"" Acetate Edition Grade 9.8 Page Quality WHITE Grade Date 07/28/2022 Grade Category Modern Art Comments Benjamin Percy story Cory Smith art Clayton Crain cover Key Comments Acetate cover. Ghost Rider #247 Infinite Black Publishing exclusive. |
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Where's his Bat-package?
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte I understand the confusion. Comic Mint has always been very safe. |
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Is Black Flag Comics, Infinite Black Publishing? | ||
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