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therealtimmyp private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Hi all! New to collecting and have decided to go with CBCS instead of CGC. It is wildly difficult to find CBCS 9.8s for the comics I like. Is this due to CBCS being newer, tougher to get 9.8s with CBCS, etc.? Also, I don't think the comics I like are too odd. Walking Dead, Southern Bastards, Descender, etc. | ||
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DertyComix private msg quote post Address this user | |
| No not realy i own a few 9.8 my self, i know a few of the members will say the same also. Matter fact i just got back my savage wolverine graded at 9.8 verified. | ||
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DertyComix private msg quote post Address this user | |
| And i did just sell an amazing spider-man #4 ramos on ebay just a few days ago. That was a 9.8 also. | ||
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| They're not too odd. I will say if your wanting some 9.8 modern books it may be easier for you to try to get your own 9.8's with sending in some solid solid raws and prescreen for 9.8's. CBCS doesn't have a 25 book minimum for prescreening | ||
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| Pedigree Comics has an auction starting tomorrow with a Walking Dead #1 graded 9.9 by CBCS (serial # 16-4019055-002). So there are a few higher grades out there. https://www.pedigreecomics.com/images/size_fs/1480969736.jpg |
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Quote:Originally Posted by therealtimmyp You're going to miss-out on a lot of books you want if you insist on only collecting one slabbing company over the other. |
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| I think most CBCS customers are keepers rather than flippers, as opposed to CGC which is heavily used by flippers. | ||
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therealtimmyp private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I definitely want to keep for my PC and not flip. Do you think a CGC 9.8 will keep its value a much as a CBCS 9.8 or should I wait. | ||
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cseale0223 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| CBCS is harder on grading but it it possible to 9.8 about half of my submissions come back 9.8s | ||
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DertyComix private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego This is a very true statement. |
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by therealtimmyp From what I've seen so far, CBCS has good integrity and a knack for finding every flaw on a book. I would bet CBCS holds better value over time, and the lawsuit against CGC currently doesnt help them for sure (hopefully they dont crash from it, but if they do, cbcs slabs will see a big price jump and vice versa) |
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego That must be why I see so much drek inside CBCS slabs  |
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer What do you base this opinion on? |
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antoniofett private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by NewComics His own |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If I absolutely had to have a book in a certain grade I wouldn't hesitate to go with a CGC slab, as long as it wasn't a Creep Engine slab. I would of course send it to CBCS for reslabbing though. | ||
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by antoniofett He's basing his own opinion on his own opinion? |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yes, he is. What is wrong with having an opinion about a company based upon your own experience with that company? | ||
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego I was hoping that his opinion was based on some kind of tangible facts. I would love to see some concrete data on CBCS slab sales, esp vs comporable CGC slabs, over the past two years, Next time I'll go with my gut and just ignore it |
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| Considering the tangible hole of credibility that CGC dug itself over the past 12 months, I don't think any past sales numbers really hold a viable gauge as to what future sales will be. Being as CBCS has done nothing to harm it's own credibility, the law of averages would suggest better odds of a CBCS slab holding value over a CGC slab long term, all other variables being equal. But that's just my 2 cents. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by NewComics Welcome back. I'm sure your tenure will be short lived. |
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson You've been gone so long I thought it was safe. Why haven't you been hanging out with your peeps here? Hump the button! |
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @newcomics I'm not gonna hold it for you while you piss, do some research instead of going with your "gut". Submit some cgc slabs and watch them come back at lower grade due to cgc missing things. Read the lawsuit against cgc. Study grading and see for yourself who is better. Research cbcs track record of owning their mistakes, being upfront and honest, and cgc of running from their mistakes. Etc etc. The man asked for opinion, I gave it. And btw LMFAO @antoniofett's response  Also, the OP asked about future. Researching comparable sales for 2 years between a relatively new company and an old one that is currently in the gutter but USED to be well respected, isnt going to get you accurate "future" speculation values. |
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer You're just going with your gut, why can't I? What do you base your opinions on, the weather? |
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I gave you a list of things in my experience that ive seen that you could research. No, I dont go with my gut. Dont get me wrong, I WANT a 2-player system here, I WANT BOTH companies to suceed. Mostly because what we are seeing now (the current egg on cgc's face) is because they had the market cornered for so long and took advantage. A solid 2-player market keeps companies honest. |
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NewComics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Cool. | ||
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @newcomics I might add that although absolutely hilarious, I dont think you deserved how this conversation went just for asking what I based my opinion on. Welcome to the forum, hope to see you around more |
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| While I wish it were true, I disagree with a lot of opinion on this thread, specifically claims that CBCS slabs will hold more value than CGC over time. Truth is I think none of us will know. Time will tell, but currently that is not the case... In my personal experience, all my CBCS books went for significantly less than market value, or CGC previous ebay sales by comparison. I'm not bitter about it, just disappointed I didn't get the sales I expected. That, and I ended up giving away some books and even going in the red on several. High profits on other books soften the blow but lesson learned. Take heed. Only experience, not opinion. | ||
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mattness private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I second with @kaptainmyke The last six months all the CBCS books I purchased sold for at a minimum of $50-$75 less per their CGC counterparts. I do have to say that the CBCS graded books, especially the 9.8's / 9.6's look incredibly better than the CGC 9.8's / 9.6's People stay with what's familiar too them. For the time being CGC is what's familiar and that's where the higher prices currently sit... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mattness I'm a collector and rarely ever sell. It's even more rare for me to "flip" a book. I'm ok with what you said ;-) |
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @kaptainmyke @mattness I agree with that, the prices (especially moderns) seem to be a bit lower for sure. However I do stick to my speculation that over time the scales will tip. |
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