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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| Other thread got filled up. So some more of my Spider-man 2099 books came back and whomever suggested foxing was interior cover was right.  |
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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| Hate it when I have foxing inside the cover, especially the back cover. One of the defects I'm most likely to miss if I'm not being super-diligent when I'm inspecting my books. | ||
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 It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door.
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| @Bronte @Byrdibyrd those sneaky little foxings..... | ||
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| Do they kill the fungus before they slab to prevent further foxing? | ||
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Chances are they they graded the book. I sincerely doubt CCS was proactive in preserving the book... | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| I'm surprised foxing got as high as a 9.4. Usually don't see it above 9.2 or 9.0. | ||
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Element_Lad Grading companies can't do anything to the books. They use to put a few sheets of micro-chamber paper in to help combat the pollutants. Not sure if that is still the case. I don't think so.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte But what about if you pay for pressing and cleaning? They say they use dry cleaning chemicals. Is one of them a fungicide? They clean the surface stains, stray inks, etc. but that sounds like only the visible imperfections. How thorough is the cleaning before it stops and restoration starts? |
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Where's his Bat-package?
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Element_Lad I like your question, but discussing pressing/cleaning techniques on the forum is a big no-no. Take care. |
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door.
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| @Element_Lad to my knowledge, the techniques used are non-restorative. And only on exterior. Otherwise, it would be considered restored. |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| CCS did the pressing and cleaning. Honestly they used to be good. But recently I wouldn't trust them unless the options were severely limited. Their work as of late is sub par in my opinion, and I doubt they spent the time to do anything proactive. I recently saw what someone who goes through the process of noting errors and such and steps to correct and estimated grades before and after. I've NEVER seen that type of detail in any other presser. I've used 4 pressing companies and most were highly regarded and highly recommended. Only one went through that level of detail. @DrWatson My hulk 181 has foxing AND has a 9.6. I think at the time we decided it was a hell of a lucky grade considering it was a 9.4 before CCS got through with it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd Sorry I am a newb and was unaware of this. Thank you for letting me know. |
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Per the CBCS section on pressing services: “As part of all pressing tiers, your comic will be dry cleaned if it is found to have surface soiling. This consists of a gentle cleaning that uses no solvents. It is very successful at removing light surface dirt, but will not remove deeper dirt, stains, or foxing.” Dry cleaning should not include any type of “treatment,” especially not the application of fungicides. I also believe that the actual cause of foxing is still not know. Is it caused by a mold/fungus, or if it is just a reaction of substances/impurities in the paper with moisture in the atmosphere? |
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 past performance is no guarantee of future actions.
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| Don't they just use fast actin' tinactin?? | ||
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Boom! The big guy is missed! Classic TV commercials from years ago. Quote: Originally Posted by KatKomics |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| Anybody doing any disney.com purchases? I have a 20% off coupon I'm not using. Message me if you want it. | ||
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| @Bronte Wow, foxing on a 9.6. I'd so pissed if I bought a 9.6 and it had foxing. | ||
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| @esaravo Hasn't it been mentioned that it might be a reaction involving iron as well? | ||
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Where's his Bat-package?
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How about foxing on a 9.8? No great mystery as to who let this one get through...  |
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 I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd its CGC....what do you expect...flawless grading? |
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Yes, iron and/or other impurities in the paper can react with moisture, humidity, etc. and cause the discoloration/foxing effect. |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| @DrWatson Who is crazy enough to crack open a 9.6 ? But I think it's in the grading notes. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Foxing. The term 'foxing' describes disfiguring small yellow brown spots or blotches on paper. Two main causes are mould and iron contaminants in the paper. Moulds feed on the paper itself, as well as any dirt or organic material on it, for example, finger marks, food stains and squashed insects. Foxing |
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Where's his Bat-package?
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by power_struggle55 I beg epic ignorance as it was early in my 3rd-party grading journey. I know better now not to send all my books to Can't Grade Comics. Now I just use them for signings and underground books that CBCS won't grade. |
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I thought foxing was on tour this year... lol....  |
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| Vast majority of old books have foxing. Majority don’t continue to degrade severely once in a stable climate/environment. Usually not caused by active mold (or necessarily caused by mold at all). Oxidation of impurities in the paper. I’ll generally take a golden age rare book with the patina of foxing over some high grade mass market book. Some get uppity but a grade is a grade. I’d also prefer a book at equal grade with some foxing patina over tears, big creases, etc. |
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Where's his Bat-package?
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Davethebrave Agreed. Foxing is just a fact of life with the older books. I count myself lucky when I have books where it's confined to the interior and/or back cover. |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Me. You. And a bazillion other comic book collectors. |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DrWatson True I've done worse and prolly will continue to do so |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| So the manager at McDonald's Saud she would put aside 3 toys that arrived in shipment today. I just got there and nobody put anything aside. Told the lady I wanted 3 anyways, she handed them to me and told me don't sweat it. 3 Mantis fir free..... | ||
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