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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
still a bargain at $639...45 minutes left to get your bids in!


New Teen Titans (1980) (Tales of ...) 2 CBCS 9.8 (21-13E527A-005)
Newsstand Edition.
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Final 3 minutes...$47

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My one biggest lager in MCS Prime Auction. Black and White Grendel's aren't all that common. This one currently at $15???:

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56559607


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Ending in minutes. One of those books that's considered iconic in small circles. Not sure what the prospects are, but this one was slabbed before I knew about pressing. I recently upgraded to a 9.6 because I'm allergic to 9.2.

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56364008 Current price $91


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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


well..not too bad..only 100 off my low estimate....both my 9.8's have an odd black printing spot on the top right corner - that may have also had an effect??

Can't complain too much - this was my extra copy and I've had them for ages - probably $100 or $150 or less plus press/grade into them - so still a plus!! - I'll also get an extra 25/30% when I convert to CAD.....and...no tax on it

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I'll also get an extra 25/30% when I convert to CAD


I forgot about the conversion. You're freakin rich!
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.


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The Prime Auction is over for me. I had over 40 items in this auction. Rather than torture myself by focusing on every individual sale I followed the total mostly. I chose a goal range for the whole group that I would be happy with. I made my high number by one dollar.
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The Prime Auction is over for me. I had over 40 items in this auction. Rather than torture myself by focusing on every individual sale I followed the total mostly. I chose a goal range for the whole group that I would be happy with. I made my high number by one dollar.


only 3 items for me - 1 to go!
Looks like I'll be about $100 under my low estimate - meh....you win some, you lose some
If my 2 CBCS orders are ever picked up from MCS I'll have a few more for next time - maybe make it back?
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




I watched those- They were literally next to each other, ending 2 or 3 seconds apart.
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




I watched those- They were literally next to each other, ending 2 or 3 seconds apart.


That's actually not all that uncommon. I've had MCS 8.5's grade 9.6 without a press. I've also sold an MCS 8.5 for more than a CGC 9.6 that was listed as BIN at the same time. I think there are people out there who will gamble on some MCS 8.5's getting to a 9.6 or 9.8.
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




I watched those- They were literally next to each other, ending 2 or 3 seconds apart.


That's actually not all that uncommon. I've had MCS 8.5's grade 9.6 without a press. I've also sold an MCS 8.5 for more than a CGC 9.6 that was listed as BIN at the same time. I think there are people out there who will gamble on some MCS 8.5's getting to a 9.6 or 9.8.


when you choose auction you are entering crazy town!!!

I've had a Batman Family 6 CBCS 7.0 sell for $255 when my other copy a CBCS 8.5 sold for $85 two months prior (and zero hype around the book to push it higher)
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




I watched those- They were literally next to each other, ending 2 or 3 seconds apart.


That's actually not all that uncommon. I've had MCS 8.5's grade 9.6 without a press. I've also sold an MCS 8.5 for more than a CGC 9.6 that was listed as BIN at the same time. I think there are people out there who will gamble on some MCS 8.5's getting to a 9.6 or 9.8.


I don't think that's going to happen in this case. There is a color breaking corner crease on the bottom right corner on the raw copy so it's not getting a grade bump if it gets submitted.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




It happened in a few spots, I think for the reason @EbayMafia mentioned. I was watching two copies of Special Marvel Edition 15 to see where they ended up. The MCS raw 7.0 went for $11 more than the CGC 7.5. There were a pair of Uncanny 266's and the raw 8.0 went for only $14 less than a CGC 9.2. People want to hit the jackpot. I don't blame them; I just sent some raws to MCS and they got hammered on grade.
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




It happened in a few spots, I think for the reason @EbayMafia mentioned. I was watching two copies of Special Marvel Edition 15 to see where they ended up. The MCS raw 7.0 went for $11 more than the CGC 7.5. There were a pair of Uncanny 266's and the raw 8.0 went for only $14 less than a CGC 9.2. People want to hit the jackpot. I don't blame them; I just sent some raws to MCS and they got hammered on grade.


The gap between that raw copy of NM 98 and the CBCS graded copy is huge when compared to the two examples you provided. Either way, it's strange to see a raw copy sell for a lot more than a grade copy in higher grade.
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




I watched those- They were literally next to each other, ending 2 or 3 seconds apart.


That's actually not all that uncommon. I've had MCS 8.5's grade 9.6 without a press. I've also sold an MCS 8.5 for more than a CGC 9.6 that was listed as BIN at the same time. I think there are people out there who will gamble on some MCS 8.5's getting to a 9.6 or 9.8.


I was thinking about what you said, the buyer in this case got a pretty good deal for a CBCS graded copy. GPA shows the last CGC 9.4 sold for $512. This CBCS 9.4 copy sold for $355, $157 less than the CGC copy and well below GPA average, plus it was $87 less than the raw copy.

If the buyer were to crack that CBCS 9.4 out and resubmit it to the auction raw, then they may possibly get more back selling it as a raw copy especially if MCS were to grade it a 8.5 or above.
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@KatKomics I think the CBCS label cost you on this one. My guess is that most of the buyers who significantly value Newsstand copies also value CGC labels significantly over CBCS.


It appears some buyers value raw copies in lower grades significantly over CBCS.




I watched those- They were literally next to each other, ending 2 or 3 seconds apart.


That's actually not all that uncommon. I've had MCS 8.5's grade 9.6 without a press. I've also sold an MCS 8.5 for more than a CGC 9.6 that was listed as BIN at the same time. I think there are people out there who will gamble on some MCS 8.5's getting to a 9.6 or 9.8.


I was thinking about what you said, the buyer in this case got a pretty good deal for a CBCS graded copy. GPA shows the last CGC 9.4 sold for $512. This CBCS 9.4 copy sold for $355, $157 less than the CGC copy and well below GPA average, plus it was $87 less than the raw copy.

If the buyer were to crack that CBCS 9.4 out and resubmit it to the auction raw, then they may possibly get more back selling it as a raw copy especially if MCS were to grade it a 8.5 or above.



It will be interesting the next 12 to 24 months..there is the CGC vs CBCS issue (which I've never been hit that hard by till now) but the looming recession and pervasive inflation are surely going to drive some buyers out of the market and the ones that remain may not be bidding up as much as they try to hold onto their cash.

I know that for many of these books the potential buyers are likely not as hard hit as others...but it still must have some impact no?
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I think it'll definitely lower the ceiling price for some buyers which will probably drop the final price. With MCS's reputation of under grading raw copies, I think if more raw copies continue to sell for more than similarly graded copies there may be a shift from CPR to crack and submit especially if the slab was purchased at a bargain price.
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The rest of mine ending today

Sitting at $9 I may have overestimated people's want for a 1:100 variant. Ah well.
House of Slaughter #2 1:100 variant (graded 9.4 by MCS which means it's prolly a 9.8 candidate):
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56076803

Sitting at $66 right now
Joker 80th Anniversary 100 Page Super Spectacular Crusty Bunkers Variant - CBCS 9.8 Verified Sig Neal Adams:
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56153359

At $36
Snow White Zombie Apocalypse #1 CGC 9.8 - Carla Cohen Collector Cave Variant:
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56286711

At $42
Strange Academy #1 CGC 9.6 Campbell Variant - Bunch of 1st Appearances:
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56209825
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I won a book in the Wed auction. Guess I should’ve waited a bit before paying so I could grab a few more (in addition to some reader copies).

I had the luck of bidding on and winning a book that I think went for a “record” price vs. the softer prices I’ve seen for many. Then again, paid half of what I was willing to pay. Win for me.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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The gap between that raw copy of NM 98 and the CBCS graded copy is huge when compared to the two examples you provided. Either way, it's strange to see a raw copy sell for a lot more than a grade copy in higher grade.


True, but it's also higher grade than my other examples. If they undergrade a 7 or 8, you're probably getting something good. If they undergrade a 9 you're definitely getting something good. I'm not going to say those assumptions are right or smart, just saying it wasn't an isolated case.
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Comparing two auction results could be done through thoughtful analysis that assumes rational, informed participants. The expected grade distribution and value (probability x graded value at grade) summed, minus cost to grade, cost of TAT (convenience factor) = raw grade value.

Or you happen to have people bidding after a few too many drinks.

Some auctions (or entire markets over the span of long periods of time) more closely resemble the latter.
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I think with MCS in particular there is a general assumption among buyers that books have not been cleaned and pressed. Their own stock certainly shows no indication of being pressed. And it would be very rare for a consignor to press a book and then send it to MCS for a hammered grade when they could send it for slabbing instead (although I have done exactly this in a few rare cases.
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My comics ending tonight:

Little Bird #1 CBCS 9.8
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=55283512

Spawn (1992 Image) 300F CBCS 9.8
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=55287554

Spawn (1992 Image) 309B CBCS 9.8
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56152577

We Live (2020 Aftershock) 1A CBCS 9.8
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56132890

Wolverine (2020 6th Series) 6B CBCS 9.8
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56152529
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I don't blame them; I just sent some raws to MCS and they got hammered on grade.


My experience is to put them into auction and let the market decide. Most times on hammered grades the auction price will do better than BINS, it's happened for me repeatedly. I think this has to do with more than just the additional exposure. I think in auction there is a psychological reassurance that other bidders also think the book has as much potential upside as you do. While in the BIN, potential buyers wonder why no one else is picking it up.
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The last of the Prime Auctions start ending in a little over an hour at 4pm Pacific / 7pm Eastern, get your final bids in!
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I don't blame them; I just sent some raws to MCS and they got hammered on grade.


My experience is to put them into auction and let the market decide. Most times on hammered grades the auction price will do better than BINS, it's happened for me repeatedly. I think this has to do with more than just the additional exposure. I think in auction there is a psychological reassurance that other bidders also think the book has as much potential upside as you do. While in the BIN, potential buyers wonder why no one else is picking it up.


Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I have a Thor 1 (Jane Foster) making it in a little too late. They put it as a FN but hopefully people will do their usual thing.

I rarely send books to MCS for BIN. I have to a) not actually want the money soon, in which case I don't send things to MCS, and b) there have to not be many for sale so that my BIN is just buried in a pile of yellow.
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Last bump:

We Live #1 CBCS 9.8 - Current Bid ($46) well below FMV

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=56132890
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