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Did Spawn 1 have a 2nd printing?17824

Collector jaysonslade private msg quote post Address this user
I noticed this ad on the back of Spawn 1. Does this mean Spawn 1 had a 2nd printing?
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Collector Kasperb991 private msg quote post Address this user
It did have a few printing covers I believe the non newsstand and a black white cover that came out 5 years later that I remember
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Collector cesidio private msg quote post Address this user
It did. I have one
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
So the back of Spawn 1 advertises the 2nd printing of Spawn 1? Why doesn't that surprise me? That may be the single best symbolic representation of the 90's new comic market.
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Collector robertofredrico private msg quote post Address this user
Spawn #1 was reprinted several times, like the Black & White edition a few years later, but it never had an actual "2nd Print".

In fact, I remember in an interview from when Image started that Todd specifically said that Spawn #1 would definitely not have a 2nd print.
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Collector Fads89 private msg quote post Address this user
@Kasperb991, I'm having a hard time believing those errors are due to auto-correct. Auto-correct cannot hate you that much!
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Collector MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
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It did. I have one


Let's see it
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Collector ComicHoarder private msg quote post Address this user
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So the back of Spawn 1 advertises the 2nd printing of Spawn 1? Why doesn't that surprise me? That may be the single best symbolic representation of the 90's new comic market.


That ad was from a "hot comic dealer" called "Entertainment This Month", not a faction of Image Comics so it's up in the air if a 2nd print was published or not.

ETM had a sister comic company called American Entertainment,both sold new and/or recent back issues. I think one of the two pretty much just sold new weekly books, and books published within the last few months.

The other of the 2 offered books up to a few years old, IIRC.

I remember buying a few books from them sporadically in my late teens...only book I recall in particular buying was an Evil Ernie #1 (vol. 1, 1st Lady Death).

I've never heard of a Spawn 1 2nd print being printed, but it's possible.

Spawn 1 had a print run of 1.7 million, tho not sure offhand if that figure accounts for the newsstand edition...if not, we can guesstimate that around 2 million copies of Spawn 1 were printed with the minimum being around 1.7 million copies.

Only books I can think of offhand with a fairly comparable print run from that era is X-Men #1 (1991) and Superman #75 (1993).

X-Men #1 didnt have a 2nd print, it did have newsstand 1st prints.

SM #75 had 4 direct prints,a newsstand 1st print and a newsstand "2nd print"...which was a UPC stickered copy, but the UPC sticker was printed by DC themselves in order for demand at convie nience stores...it was not a regular UPC sticker printed by 7-11 or wawa etc.

So, if SM 75 had 4 prints,a newsstand and a 2nd print newsstand (stretching that term), it's conceivable Spawn 1 had a 2nd print direct and a 1st print newsstand.

Info thread on ETM / AE:

https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/85928-what-ever-happened-to-american-entertainment-from-the-80s90s/
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
FWIW mycomicshop doesn't have a 2nd print listed. There's an Image Firsts reprint from 2010, 25th and 30 anniversary editions, foreign editions, and a misprint.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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So the back of Spawn 1 advertises the 2nd printing of Spawn 1? Why doesn't that surprise me? That may be the single best symbolic representation of the 90's new comic market.


And they had to put that add in well before they even started printing the book…I don’t know when advertising is supposed to be submitted but you’d think the deadline is before FOC if the book. But most definitely the add was generated before a 2nd print would have even been announced or solicited.
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Collector ComicHoarder private msg quote post Address this user
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So the back of Spawn 1 advertises the 2nd printing of Spawn 1? Why doesn't that surprise me? That may be the single best symbolic representation of the 90's new comic market.


And they had to put that add in well before they even started printing the book…I don’t know when advertising is supposed to be submitted but you’d think the deadline is before FOC if the book. But most definitely the add was generated before a 2nd print would have even been announced or solicited.


Yes, I meant to note that in my long post about that company above but I got sidetracked, lol.

I'm about 99% sure that ETM normally put prices up for books they expected to go into 2nd prints in ads.

@cesidio says he has a Spawn 1 2nd print but I think he's probably misremembering.

"PIcs or GTFO", @cesidio

LOL, just kidding....but seriously, please check the book to confirm it's a 2nd print and if it is, please post up a pic of the FC,DC interior page(indica page) and the BC.
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Collector cesidio private msg quote post Address this user
2nd print. Spawn #1


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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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2nd print. Spawn #1




I’m pretty sure the Indica calls this an image firsts edition. Not a 2nd print.

Plus this book has had many other editions “reprinting” the first issue….including Gold foils and free comic book day editions. None are technically “reprints” though.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Best I can tell, MCS does not offer an official 2nd print of Spawn #1. So if there is something similar, it's different enough to be categorized under a different title.
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Collector ComicHoarder private msg quote post Address this user
By a "2nd print", I am referring to a reprint that came out due to initial sellout at the comic store (or newsstand, though much less likely) level.

That 2nd print would have been printed the same month as Spawn #1 1st print, generally 2nd prints are printed & shipped to comic stores within 1-2 weeks of a 1st print being sold out, with enough requests for reorders at Diamond to warrant a 2nd print.
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Collector SGT_Comics private msg quote post Address this user
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By a "2nd print", I am referring to a reprint that came out due to initial sellout at the comic store (or newsstand, though much less likely) level.

That 2nd print would have been printed the same month as Spawn #1 1st print, generally 2nd prints are printed & shipped to comic stores within 1-2 weeks of a 1st print being sold out, with enough requests for reorders at Diamond to warrant a 2nd print.


As far as I can remember, Youngblood #1 was the only original Image book with a true "2nd Print," which I think came out the next month after the 1st print, so it would've been been reasonable for ETM to anticipate a 2nd print of Spawn #1. Also, since we know the Youngblood #1 2nd print has a gold metallic ink frame on the cover, we could reasonably expect the Spawn #1 2nd print to have similar obvious visible differences from the 1st print, meaning if it existed we'd know it.

But wouldn't it be fun if there were 2nd prints that were only marked in the indicia and were released through those Pedigree sealed collector's sets and no one noticed?

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Collector Paulbg2000 private msg quote post Address this user
Just a question... I know the 90's were just full of mass printings. Could the black dot variant be a later printing that they basically wrote off as being in the 1st print to keep up with demand?

Considering Todd has stated that it was a 50/50 split between the error and non-error, they could have been printed at different times but still be considered "1st Print" to keep the false inflated value at the time going.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
I don’t think any official “2nd print” exists. If anything; Todd would’ve just kept the presses running until issue #2. Like “oh you need more? Here you go” because Todd is like that. Why complicate things when you can just supply the demand and make people happy and make money at the same time👍🏻
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I don’t think any official “2nd print” exists. If anything; Todd would’ve just kept the presses running until issue #2. Like “oh you need more? Here you go” because Todd is like that. Why complicate things when you can just supply the demand and make people happy and make money at the same time👍🏻


Whatever they did, they printed plenty. I wonder if any book has ever had more 9.8's graded than Spawn 1? Check out the available inventory at MCS:
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?q=spawn+1&pubid=&PubRng=
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Just a question... I know the 90's were just full of mass printings. Could the black dot variant be a later printing that they basically wrote off as being in the 1st print to keep up with demand?

Considering Todd has stated that it was a 50/50 split between the error and non-error, they could have been printed at different times but still be considered "1st Print" to keep the false inflated value at the time going.

They were on the shelf at the same time.
Bought a dozen or more issues and I remember seeing the sloppy ink versions and choosing the others instead.
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Collector El_Dub13 private msg quote post Address this user
The new 30th Anniversary blanks…



are still 1st Prints.
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Collector steveinthecity private msg quote post Address this user
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I wonder if any book has ever had more 9.8's graded than Spawn 1? Check out the available inventory at MCS:
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?q=spawn+1&pubid=&PubRng=


I’m late seeing this, but your hunch is correct, at least as far as CGC graded copies go. As of about a year ago Spawn #1 had over 9800 copies in 9.8 slabs, well ahead of the runner-up Spider-Man #1(silver Ed.) which trailed by 3000+ copies in 9.8.
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
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The new 30th Anniversary blanks…



are still 1st Prints.


The title of that comic is "30th Anniversary Spawn" not "Spawn". They are first prints because they are a different, new title.
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Collector El_Dub13 private msg quote post Address this user
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The new 30th Anniversary blanks…



are still 1st Prints.


The title of that comic is "30th Anniversary Spawn" not "Spawn". They are first prints because they are a different, new title.

Yes. I am quite aware of that. I am pointing out the fact that they "rename" it so that they don't have to re-press it.
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