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I blame the forum gremlins. figment private msg quote post Address this user
Not sure how I feel about this...





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Collector Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user
Wonder how that will affect asm 238, would be great to not have that as a qualified grade if missing tattooz since it doesn't affect anything at all.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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Not sure how I feel about this...

Some of it I'm okay with, like not listing missing cover pieces or punch holes. Decent photos of a book should make those obvious. Detachments not involving the cover or coupons filled out, etc., that can't be seen but can be one of those things that some collectors go out of their way not to have in their collection I'm less sure of. It seems a little like coercion to me that if a potential buyer wants to know if these significant defects are present in a book they must have a CGC membership or be S.O.L.
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I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet! Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user
This sucks just like the rest of Cgc does.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Grader's notes from the cgc are not free. They are only "free" if you have paid for a membership that gives one access to them.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
Maybe next they'll address the issue of getting those labels in the correct slabs.
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
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if a potential buyer wants to know if these significant defects are present in a book they must have a CGC membership or be S.O.L.
^ This.
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
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I wanna know who these “prominent members of the collecting community” are that don’t want these defects to be identified on the label.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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I wanna know who these “prominent members of the collecting community” are that don’t want these defects to be identified on the label.

That is an excellent question.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
I'm guessing this has been discussed before; but could this not be solved by simply putting the graders notes... all of them.... on the back of the label?
No potential of duplication
Evident in plain daylight to anyone and everyone
No scanning codes; no memberships; no nothing

What is the mystery and the clandestine approach to graders notes over the years?. (Yes I know CBCS has them for free to anyone with a CBCS account). I'm simply offering a suggestion where nothing... nothing is needed other than reading comprehension.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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I wanna know who these “prominent members of the collecting community” are that don’t want these defects to be identified on the label.

As outraged as they seem in the CGC forum over this.... I'm guessing these prominent members who caused this are employees of CBCS, PGX and EGS.
😉
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The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
This is so bad for our hobby!
We could use more information not less.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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could this not be solved by simply putting the graders notes... all of them.... on the back of the label?

I think that's a good idea, and if I have to use magnification to see tiny print, so be it.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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I wanna know who these “prominent members of the collecting community” are that don’t want these defects to be identified on the label.

That is an excellent question.

It has to be certain dealers fearing the notation will affect the sale.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
This was foreshadowed by the implementation of cgc providing "Free" graders notes to those who first PAY for membership, thus it's NOT Free. Now, for all those who want to see those commonly posted defects/missing items you'll have to pay the EXTORTION Membership fee. Another reason to collect CBCS encased comics.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck
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I wanna know who these “prominent members of the collecting community” are that don’t want these defects to be identified on the label.

As outraged as they seem in the CGC forum over this.... I'm guessing these prominent members who caused this are employees of CBCS, PGX and EGS.
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I don't follow. This is dealers who don't want major defects listed on labels when they submit books. In the hopes of getting higher prices for books with major defects.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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I wanna know who these “prominent members of the collecting community” are that don’t want these defects to be identified on the label.

That is an excellent question.

It has to be certain dealers fearing the notation will affect the sale.

Negative impact on sale prices is the only reason for this that makes sense. Gotta be dealers and other folks who profit from sales.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@CaptainCanuck @Byrdibyrd - the "prominent members of the collecting community" are likely executives at cgc and Blackstone.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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(Yes I know CBCS has them for free to anyone with a CBCS account).


Do you need a CBCS account to access notes? I thought anyone with a cell phone could scan the QR codes.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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(Yes I know CBCS has them for free to anyone with a CBCS account).


Do you need a CBCS account to access notes? I thought anyone with a cell phone could scan the QR codes.

As far as I know, that is correct. It's CGC that requires a membership to view grader's notes.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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This is so bad for our hobby!
We could use more information not less.

Agreed.
Which is what I said in a thread last week about the Wolverine cut-out but most people said it would take too much time, and "large piece cut out" was enough info.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
on a side note cgc has taken down the TATS TO 94 Days

i can see why they might want to reduce the notes.
the label will look cluttered.

want to see notes just pull the book up with the serial number and see the complete details.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
i think you can call cgc up over the phone and give them a serial number and get the notes.
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PLOD theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user
Any 'odd' defect that cannot be observed through the case should be listed on the label.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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on a side note cgc has taken down the TATS TO 94 Days

i can see why they might want to reduce the notes.
the label will look cluttered.

want to see notes just pull the book up with the serial number and see the complete details.

A lot of books don't have notes, plus you'd have to pay for a membership to see whatever notes there might be.
Which may be their goal.

Maybe those "prominent members of the community" are the owners saying find new ways to make money.
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You can't get good wood on the ball every time. HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user
Horrible decision and another big hit to their reputation.
There is no positive side to this from a buyers perspective. Only downside.
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
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...he's asking would the CBCS label (in this scenario) say "large piece cut out" or something more specific like "Wolverine figure cut out".


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Large piece cut out


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This is so bad for our hobby!
We could use more information not less.

Indeed.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Isn't reducing the defects listed on labels just another way of saying they're hiding the defects?

I know it should appear in Graders Notes but there's a significant # of books with no Graders Notes. Weird.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
I guess there is really no guarantee that those significant defects were ever on the label in the first place. Now it's just a guarantee that they won't be. Meaning that now after-market buyers of CGC books will need to do the homework that we should have been doing in the first place. It will be interesting for those of us who don't have access to grader notes. I guess we will have to ask the seller to supply them to us. Which of course assumes that the seller is the original submitter or has a CGC account. What a freaking mess.
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The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
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There is no positive side to this from a buyers perspective. Only downside.


This!
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