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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
Maybe you won't, but maybe you will....
Either one, just pick a pill...
The Bat has toys, but Supes is strong...
Either one, you won't be wrong...
Supes can't stand Luthor's Kryptonite, and the Bat is weak from Scarecrow's gas...
Either one, just peek into the looking glass...
So speak up and use your voice...
Supes or the Bat? Make a choice...

Blue for me...
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Man of Steel 2, without question.
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@etapi65, @OGJackster & @Byrdibyrd I’m with you here. I really liked “The Man of Steel” but would be concerned with what would follow. There is this thing with superhero movies where every sequel needs to be bigger and more insane then the last one. Considering Superman saved the earth from being terraformed into a new planet Not sure I want to see what gonzo crap the Hollywood bozos pull out of their butts. It would probably be much the same as what already does.

On “The Batman” there was some things to like and something’s that were not great. I think the main reason most people didn’t enjoy the movie was it was just WAY to long. It was just trying to have two main plots in one movie and what ended up happening is the villain plot was under developed so they could develop a supporting character instead.
I would give a sequel to “The Batman” a shot based on potential.

So I guess that’s a red pill, although I thought “Man of Steel” was a better movie. Now that I have typed this, I am not sure it makes any sense haha. Don’t listen to me I may be crazy 🙃
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Pretty sure the vast majority really, really liked The Batman. It is a film that will stand the test of time, unlike the majority of the comic book pop-music fluff that gets churned out.
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Doom Patrol - the movie???
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Batman 2 was already greenlit, announced at CinemaCon 2022.
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Pretty sure the vast majority really, really liked The Batman. It is a film that will stand the test of time, unlike the majority of the comic book pop-music fluff that gets churned out.

I severely doubt that. It will always be overshadowed by Nolan's trilogy.
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I really liked Nolan’s trilogy. Enough that I have original movie posters in my home theater.

The Batman will stand the test of time because it is a well made film. Not a “well made comic book film” but rather a good film in general.

I enjoyed the Tobey Maguire Spidey films. They aren’t up to either the Nolan or Reeves Batman films. They (Maguire films) will stand the test of time -better- than the recent Holland movies, however, as they are superior films (fandom aside).

Of course this is all subjective.

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Pretty sure the vast majority really, really liked The Batman. It is a film that will stand the test of time, unlike the majority of the comic book pop-music fluff that gets churned out.

I severely doubt that. It will always be overshadowed by Nolan's trilogy.
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Doom Patrol - the movie???


Metal Men - The Movie (** HEY! would they have to change it to "Metal People" for the snowflakes?)
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The Batman will stand the test of time because it is a well made film. Not a “well made comic book film” but rather a good film in general.

It 'rips off' (homages, etc) other films and doesn't validate its runtime. Those types of movies don't stand the test of time for most people.

What makes a movie like TDK (let's say Se7en, too) immortal is that you can't remove much - if anything - without affecting the story. The Batman cannot make such a claim.

Spider-Man has the same claim vs Homecoming. If you didn't see the rest of the MCU, Homecoming isn't a tight narrative. Alternatively, Spider-Man 1 and 2 have tight narratives.
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Funny because I am a fan of Heat and a fan of Nolan’s Batman films and the influence was starkly apparent. I don’t consider influence or re-interpretations as relevant. If it stands on its own, it stands on its own.

No set formula to a good film. The Batman fully “validates” its runtime to me. Then again, I enjoy 10+ minute songs and can read a long novel without getting bored.

Apocalypse Now is an epic film that is virtually a direct lift. I am certain if released today people would decry its long run-time. I am happy to see filmmakers that don’t feel completely shackled by purely commercial considerations.

Pattinson was a brilliant choice though with plenty of commercial risk. So was the long run time. Also a movie disconnected from the trendy “universe” approach. One of the positives of inconsistent commercial results at WB is the willingness to take risks that Disney won’t. Nice to see the results.

Honestly, after constant disappointments like Venom, No Way Home (vs hype especially), The Eternals, Black Widow and (to a lesser extent) Shang Chi, I was happy to watch an intelligent, enjoyable comic based movie. The genre is being run-to-ground by Disney.

Also, it was nice to have Nirvana used in its original form vs the atrocious cover in Black Widow. The latter set the tone immediately and not in a good way…

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The Batman will stand the test of time because it is a well made film. Not a “well made comic book film” but rather a good film in general.

It 'rips off' (homages, etc) other films and doesn't validate its runtime. Those types of movies don't stand the test of time for most people.

What makes a movie like TDK (let's say Se7en, too) immortal is that you can't remove much - if anything - without affecting the story. The Batman cannot make such a claim.

Spider-Man has the same claim vs Homecoming. If you didn't see the rest of the MCU, Homecoming isn't a tight narrative. Alternatively, Spider-Man 1 and 2 have tight narratives.
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I do hope Cavill finds a way back to the Superman role.

More than that I hope Jesse Eisenberg never returns as Lex. I actually think there is a market for removing him digitally and replacing him with CGI. Can call it “The Eisenberg Cut.”
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...Apocalypse Now is an epic film that is virtually a direct lift. I am certain if released today people would decry its long run-time. I am happy to see filmmakers that don’t feel completely shackled by purely commercial considerations...

...Pattinson was a brilliant choice though with plenty of commercial risk. So was the long run time. Also a movie disconnected from the trendy “universe” approach. One of the positives of inconsistent commercial results at WB is the willingness to take risks that Disney won’t. Nice to see the results...

The Batman's runtime isn't a problem because it's long, it's a problem because you can remove (guesstimate) 30 minutes from the movie without negatively affecting anything. Runtimes for runtime's sake are no good, agreed, but The Batman suffers from the same fate as ZSJL. They can both be re-edited to improve the pacing substantially in some areas.
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Then again, I enjoy 10 minute songs and can read a long novel without getting bored.


I am the opposite, a majority of my reading is anthologies of short stories. A slow developing movie like The Batman is hard for me to digest twice. I know it was a better film overall than Man of Steel, but if both were on TV at the same time I would re-watch Man of Steel before I would re-watch The Batman. I just remember it as being more entertaining. With Superman I remember individual scenes (like the destruction of Krypton, The bearded Clark Kent journeys, the Kryptonian street fight, etc, etc). But with The Batman I remember it as all one long scene.
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:-)
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